Didn't they make fun of this group in an episode of Monty Python?

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Yes they exist but those are uncommon. Sure those people have their fans but there are nutjobs in every society. They are very much the loud minority.

I meant they aren't widely worshipped. If you go on the street of Beijing and yell "I love the CCP and Mao!" You're likely to get a lot of "um ok let me stay away from that person". You aren't likely to gather a group chanting with you.

It was the equivalent of the newest cellphone of its day. Music in the form of singing, chanting, whistling, etc. had been around long before that instrument was made and it was likely a progressive improvement over something like a large grass or reed stalk.

We don't tend to find those types of things being preserved though in archaeology sites. We know they had to exist due to seeing technologically less advanced peoples in more modern ages being documented making and use them.

A standard mouth whistle that you see referees use at sports events, for example, likely has origins even further back.

https://youtu.be/JZysi-6xqjE

Then how do you explain photo of Mao Zedong, Ho Chi Minh or the Kims in their houses and workplaces?

My grandpa had a little statue of Guan Yu, looks so bad ass.

When he died, my husband asked if we could have it but my mum said it's not just a statue, it's a God, we have to respect it, worship it and serve it tea. We were like, yeah na, not doing that for a statue.

My uncle ended up taking it home and it's in a mini shrine.

And my family is not even religious!

Mao isn’t worshipped. Maybe in very rural areas. Maybe literally today today as the politics have shifted a bit since Xi wanted to glorify the past again and that has brought out a bunch of MCGA crowd. But a decade ago you could buy a lot of Mao memed tshirts in cities.

Mao is still recognized as the conqueror. His reputation as the person who united modern China and established the communist party is unassailable and that won’t ever change because that narrative is baked into the legitimacy of the CCP. However his policies from long time ago is no longer heralded as successful in public opinion.

I also know things about the president of the US. Doesn't mean I am him. It's possible to know about groups you aren't part of. It's called "learning".

Good for them

Then of course you don't worship. I was talking about communists only.

Do you think anyone with common sense is a member of the CCP?

Are you a member of the communist party?

I mean chik fil a is a restaurant, not a religious institution. It’s leadership and employees lean to the Christian side, and that side obviously leans towards some ignorant beliefs (though most are not offensive to anything but logic), but to imply that it defines the restaurant seems kind of ridiculous, given how successful they are.

Imagine the impact this instrument would make on people before recorded music was a thing.

>Isn't there a god of mortals already that was worshipped by the Atmorans?

If you mean Orkey, he's the god of mortality, not of mortals. Malicious and seeking to end life, Orkey represents death and the dead. Not those who live. Contrast to Shor, the dead god and former chief of the pantheon, Atmoran/Nordic god-champion of men and mortals against the mer and malicious gods alike.

>Besides, the rest of the gods' realms are in Aetherius. So is the Hall of Valor, which is Shor's realm.

Sovngarde and the Hall of Valor aren't Shor's realm any more than they're Tsun's or Alduin's. They're the glorious afterlife and the chief of gods, champion of mortals, receives a throne among dead heroes. The rest of the gods' realms are in Aetherius in the same way as Nirn is. Oblivion surrounds Nirn and the stars and sun are holes in the fabric of Oblivion to Aetherius, which surrounds Oblivion. The gods are their realms and spheres in TES and the remainders of the Aedra hang in the sky of Mundus, planets drifting in Oblivion same as Nirn.

>Nirn was created when he tricked the other gods into creating Nirn. That's why his heart was ripped out.

Created out of what? And why couldn't the other gods destroy Lorkhan's heart, why settle for ripping it out and throwing it down after trying?

Lorkhan recognized the truth of the Aurbis, that all is one even as one is itself. That even the gods were baser emanations of creation, of what creator there might be, ever static in their spheres despite their mind and agency. That despite his divinity he was trapped by his immutable nature. But that despite his nature limiting him, it also gave him agency. Lorkhan recognized that limitation and struggle breed growth and learning, that limitation is potential, that he could act because there were limits to himself which could hypothetically be exceeded. That the only way to truly be better and to better his kin was to reduce them so that they might have room to grow and learn, to be what they are not. To become more than themselves. To truly understand and fulfill their natures as both one with and independent from the godhead.

On the promise of betterment the Aedra laid themselves low, the Earthbones gave shape and form, and intricate lesser spirits were created within Mundus, within Lorkhan. Mortals, spirits of many spheres. Mortals, feeble and stupid and complexly bound by the world around them. Mortals, fragments of gods as much as the children of gods, free to grow and to learn and to escape the shackles of creation Lorkhan saw in the Aurbis. The other gods and he were one in multitudes, mixed and diluted into beings so helpless and limited and multifaceted that they could become more than the whole of creation, more than anything that came before, more than the sum of their parts.

When the other gods realized they would very literally give themselves to Nirn, that they would be cleaved and bound and lose themselves to grow, it was already too late to leave or take revenge for many. They bound themselves to Nirn, to mortals, and ultimately to Lorkhan so that they would learn, and Lorkhan had planned to make them learn. To destroy his heart would require they destroy mortal life, Nirn, and themselves.

It's worth noting here, Shor is also canonically the Childrens' God. God of new life, of those born of the sacrifice of beings yet greater, ignorant and weak yet free to learn and grow with new eyes upon the shoulders of those before them. Neat parallel.

got to be ready for WWIII!

Imagine being the post-doc that discovered the mite's missing asshole... The prestige, the glamour, the never living it down.

No we don't.

That's how it generally works in polytheism. Talos ascended by sheer force of will, too.

The Monkey King also. It's the equivalent of building temples in the image of Bugs Bunny.

Lmao you’d read through this thread & think that chickfila is not immensely popular. this stupid app and the stupid gen pop opinions on it are so wildly divorced from real life.

Mao's still worshipped today and his status as the founder of modern China is still pretty much unassailable. The Gang of Four was toppled and the Cultural Revolution was rebuked but Mao is personally exonerated from all crimes. The official line on the Cultural Revolution is that it was a mistake but Mao was mislead by bad advisors and it's mostly his fault. He's a bit flawed but still ultimately a great man and worthy of admiration.

There's still the massive mausoleum for his preserved corpse. Mao's image is still very ubiquitous in China, he's on money and his portrait still hangs at Tiananmen. People still buy Mao memorabilia and the government still talks about him in a positive light.

In Canada they enacted a sales tax for the first time during WWII as a temporary measure to help pay for the war effort. Guess what? We still got the fucking sales tax.

Still need the dingle arm, though.

True, and there are indeed Mao temples around China that attract worshippers.