Recent comments in /f/vermont

somedudevt t1_j1xb1cx wrote

Be smart about it:

  1. Install the rear plate.
  2. Take the other plate, put it in the car under the seat.
  3. Drive the car.

Inspection is only needed if they realize you are from vermont. If your driving down the road with no front plate, and no sticker, they don’t know you are a Vermonter till you pass. There isn’t a cop in this state who is looking at the front plate then the window THEN the back plate to notice you should have had a sticker.

Keep your lights in working order, and don’t crash, and stay within 12 of the speed limit and you can go years with no sticker.

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RandolphCarter15 t1_j1xao8q wrote

Sorry this isn't helpful but I wonder how much of the housing shortage comes from VT law limiting landlord rights. I considered renting out part of my house but heard so many of these horror stories I figured it wasn't worth it

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czo79 t1_j1x94b2 wrote

Some places won't if you don't have DOT tires, some places won't if you don't have blinkers, some places won't if you don't have a stock exhaust. It seems like it's all over the place. A lot of places don't really know the rules and are stricter than required because they don't want to lose their inspection license. I haven't had a bike inspected in a long time but with cars they have to take pictures with a special tablet and send them to the state, and if they fail you they notify the state so you can't just bring it somewhere else. It's a racket.

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czo79 t1_j1x7ajv wrote

Yer facked. Gonna have to stud up and ride it here. We might be loose with registrations because we want your money but we got about the worst inspection regime in the country. Is there still the vermont loophole anyways? I thought there was talk about closing it down? It seems to be getting harder here for bikes, I stopped bothering to inspect mine.

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DragBunt t1_j1x6k19 wrote

That's the reason why the stuff is pointless. Shitty cars are being passed anyways.

"In one study, researchers in Pennsylvania intentionally created 13 defects in a brand new car prior to inspection. Among the many garages they visited, the detection rate of real defects varied widely, from 25% to 54%. Interestingly, while mechanics on average only found five of the 13 defects, they also “found” an average of two non-existent defects."

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Internal-Fudge8578 t1_j1x68ox wrote

I know a lot of people that go multiple years without inspecting. Unfortunately they changed where the stickers go but you used to be able to just keep a boat on top of your car and the cops would never be able to tell what number was on your sticker unless you got pulled over.

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manofsticks t1_j1x67k4 wrote

>The laws aren't that strict or unreasonable

It comes down to what you believe the purpose of the inspection is; IMO the primary purpose of the inspection is for safety reasons, not environmental.

For example my last car had an air injection valve get stuck occasionally. All it did was make the car run a little rougher, and use more gas for a month or two until it got un-stuck. But that was enough to fail inspection, so I would postpone my inspections for a month or two until it would pass.

While dealing with environmental issues is important, IMO it's not worth it if it would cause people to postpone safety checks (like it does in Vermont). Make it a separate sticker or something so people can still get their safety check and then deal with emissions later.

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DragBunt t1_j1x62ql wrote

It should be like almost all other states where you are responsible for your own car. For example, Minnesota where I grew up has worse winters and rust issues and fewer auto deaths per capita. Unless the contention is Vermonters need to be babied more than Minnesotans for some reason, I don't get the point of these inspections.

"There are existing laws that allow police officers to issue citations for unsafe vehicles. There are statutes covering lighting, mirrors, mufflers, brakes, horns and tires. Comparison of insurance rates between those states that require annual inspections and those that do not show no significant difference in premiums. When fatality rates are compared, there is no correlation between inspections and fatalities. In short, the annual vehicle safety inspection has not been proven to benefit drivers in any way."

I would be happy to be proven wrong. The one study I've seen for inspections was being produced with ASA backing and I was less than impressed.

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