Recent comments in /f/vermont
Oeslian t1_j212of1 wrote
Reply to comment by contrary-contrarian in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
This, Vermont is the only state where it's safe legally to let the public on your land. Unless you have any unmarked open pits or other obvious hazards.
Necessary_Cat_4801 t1_j212jj9 wrote
Reply to comment by 5teerPike in Vermont lawmakers aim to make housing more available and affordable by dropkickninja
I'm not saying that there isn't a need for new housing. I'm saying you'll find that VT is populated, in large part, by wealthy old people who will fight development tooth and nail.
Necessary_Cat_4801 t1_j212c3o wrote
Reply to comment by Prohamen in Vermont lawmakers aim to make housing more available and affordable by dropkickninja
I think policy-wise, the emphasis now is on mixed income developments. Concentrated public housing frequently turns into "ghetto" housing projects.
Oeslian t1_j2122mo wrote
Reply to Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
If people are abusing the privileges it's time to post the land for trespassing. If anyone complains you can direct them to the rude neighbors who ruined it for everyone.
contrary-contrarian t1_j2122as wrote
Reply to comment by Eagle_Arm in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
For sure. If you partner with a trail organization they can sometime provide insurance that would cover defense in that instance.
For example, people that have landowner agreements with the Vermont Mountain Bike Association have that coverage, along with VMBA's insurance policy.
Eagle_Arm t1_j211sxk wrote
Reply to comment by contrary-contrarian in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
Vermont's law in it is pretty good and fron what I've read about it, stands up well, but someone could still take action against you. Thrown out, sure, but that won't stop having to pay a lawyer to do the paperwork for dismissal.
JankyIngenue t1_j211sry wrote
Reply to Best fish and chips by aqhamills
Union Jacks in Burlington or Cody’s Irish Pub in Essex
Eagle_Arm t1_j21191t wrote
Reply to comment by CountryAssLawyer in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
That's the verbiage I couldn't remember. Thanks for that.
Eagle_Arm t1_j21179i wrote
Reply to comment by Meow_Meow_4_Life in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
The commenter below had the phrase I couldn't remember.
The go-to example is usually a trampoline or pool that isn't fenced off and kids get hurt or drown. The kids aren't blamed because, they're just kids, they don't know any better. The adult, landowner, should have taken precautions to prevent it.
It's good to protect people who can't protect themselves, but it's also a little bullshit that you need to think about how to legally protect yourself vs. providing an area for people to be outdoors.
Mountain_Cash7913 t1_j210r6u wrote
Reply to Best fish and chips by aqhamills
Elliot Street Fish, Chips, & More in Brattleboro. Really good falafel as well and homemade tartar sauce!
Eagle_Arm t1_j210owq wrote
Reply to comment by thisoneisnotasbad in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
But I live here now....why don't you accept me as if I was your old neighbor!?
I don't think people realize it's years or decades of trust being built between people that allowed that to occur.
Someone hunted this year on some land I have. They asked permission even though I have known them since I was a kid. The common courtesy thing to do. When year was over, they gave me a gift card for groceries.
Nothing crazy expensive and wouldn't be enough to fill a basket of groceries, but it wasn't expected or implied. More of a, "you fucker, you didn't have to do that." They also did the gift card trick because if it was money, it's easier to deny money even though it's exactly the same.
People expect all the benefits of a lifelong neighbor on move-in without building the relationship.
Meow_Meow_4_Life t1_j210kxt wrote
Reply to comment by CountryAssLawyer in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
Cool! Another thing for me to worry about. LOL
Twombls t1_j210k24 wrote
Reply to comment by bibliophile222 in Is it worth visiting Vemont in January 2023? by singhm11
Except it is going to be 50f and pouring rain when op wants to be here
Meow_Meow_4_Life t1_j2109p1 wrote
Reply to comment by CountryAssLawyer in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
Thanks so much!
CountryAssLawyer t1_j2105so wrote
Reply to comment by Meow_Meow_4_Life in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
The answer is ‘yes,’ but only under specific circumstances. Google “attractive nuisance” for one example.
Meow_Meow_4_Life t1_j21040p wrote
Reply to comment by raz0rsnak3 in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
This helps and makes sense. How did you handle seeing a guy walking around your property/house with a rifle?
contrary-contrarian t1_j2100uj wrote
Reply to comment by Eagle_Arm in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
Vermont has a landowner liability protection law. If your land is open to the public, they cannot sue you for injuries sustained on your land (provided there aren't any man-made hazards/extraordinary circumstances).
Bamboochowda t1_j20zusd wrote
Reply to comment by CancelCultAntifaLol in Vehicle Inspection for VT Newcomer by Footie57
As far as shopping around for inspections, what's the best way to find someone who might be more willing to overlook a not-so-great homemade rust repair job, and maybe some hazy headlights (hazy on the interior, unfortunately)?
It's an 09 Honda that I believe is still mechanically sound and safe, and has brand new tires (Xmas gift from a parent).
I'm already pretty darn overdue for an inspection and I've already gotten a couple of warnings for past due inpections years ago, so I feel like I'm running on borrowed time at this point.
I'm not great with my hands, have no garage to do car work in this winter, and can't afford to pay someone to do body work because I am already living just barely in the black mostly because of high rent rates around the Upper Valley. So I'll do some sort of homemade rust repair as I'm able, but it probably won't come out pretty.
How do I go about finding a certified inspection place who might be a little less on the strict side as far as passing a vehicle?
Twombls t1_j20zt2o wrote
Reply to Is it worth visiting Vemont in January 2023? by singhm11
Bro it is wayyyyyy too late to book that trip.
Just look at listings for hotels next week. Do you see any?
raz0rsnak3 t1_j20zp9o wrote
Reply to comment by Meow_Meow_4_Life in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
No trespassing, hunting, fishing, trapping, etc. Yellow plastic Posted signs set as specified by the state, signed and dated, registered with the town.
No permission will be given to anyone who isn't family or friend.
Cellular cameras installed in key areas, backed up with WiFi cameras.
Sounds like overkill but in the 2 months I've owned the land I've seen dozens of guys on my land with rifles.
Meow_Meow_4_Life t1_j20z5em wrote
Reply to comment by Eagle_Arm in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
Have you heard of people being sued by trespassers that have been injured on other people’s property and the owner being liable if it wasn’t posted?
Eagle_Arm t1_j20yqz3 wrote
Reply to comment by Meow_Meow_4_Life in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
If you want it to be enforced, post it. You can have notes on the sign that people can ask permission. They then contact you.
If you're just doing rules, I'm no lawyer, but opening yourself up to potential lawsuits if they injure themselves.
Stronkowski t1_j20yqva wrote
Reply to comment by Meow_Meow_4_Life in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
There's specific rules for posting if you want it to be official. You can start here
Meow_Meow_4_Life t1_j20yd5g wrote
Reply to comment by thisoneisnotasbad in Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
Thanks so much. Don't stress I'll research from here.
ZZZCCCVV t1_j212s7h wrote
Reply to Balancing trespassers with being neighborly by c_l_who
I share your pain. I've seen trespassers making complaints to the ministry of environment because the landowners where they were walking installed frost fencing at great expense and they couldn't walk in the forest anymore. I would ask them "did you get permission to walk there" and they looked so suprised by my response as if i was a birthright to be able to freely walk thy neighbors property. I categorize these people as entitled bitches.