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df33702021 t1_j24lfrw wrote

I have land and have seen it all: trash, poaching, people cutting trails, vehicles doing donuts, just outright rudeness, etc, etc. Just post it. People are shits. I lived in my area growing up and bought a large piece of property and found out the neighbors were actually the biggest pieces of shit ever. They didn't care about my privacy and they didn't care about their dogs harassing me or my critters. They had used the property through the years and the fact that someone bought it (even a local) and built a house didn't matter to them. In fact, it seems to have angered them. It's almost like they considered themselves to be the defacto owners, although many of them could have bought it at certain points through the years. The fact that the house was there didn't matter to them. They would go right through my yard in front of the house to access the property even though they didn't have to. Just rude.

Add to that all the people who want to use the property from just random places. It's like they (especially hunters who have paid for a license) have a sense of entitlement. It's like when you see a tourist who's just being a complete shit. You wonder if they behave the same way when they are home. Do they throw trash on their own property? Do they respect their neighbor's privacy? etc.

So up went the signs. It's an onerous task by design. But you should check your property lines every year anyway. It's never happened to me, but I know of other property owners who have had their lines moved. Anyway, I was just done with it. I'm not going to be treated like shit on my own property.

In terms of signs near houses, I have the same situation with signs going right by someone's house. I don't feel bad about it though. This guy wants to hunt on the property and I tried it twice with him. He won't follow the rules. The rules are simple. Text when/where you enter. Same when you leave. Only deer. And stay away from the house. I have others who do fine with this. Anyway, he wouldn't even see the signs except he cleared every tree on his own property. So screw it. I tried.

Anyway. just post it. You can just do no trespassing signs. They don't have to be dated or signed.

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5teerPike t1_j24ifdk wrote

>flatlanders that keep trying to make Vermont more like wherever they came from

In my case, this is apparently why we can't have sidewalks (this was also why it took forever to pass recreational cannabis sales & open shops). Crazy that nimbys don't consider public safety when you have kids walking home from school on the side of the road.

Vermont is in America and Nimbyism sucks.

Edit: when changes are discussed in your locale more people need to ask themselves what really makes Vermont, Vermont; and we should then ask if the changes proposed actually threaten that, because most of the time it doesn't. Some people believe no gay marriage allowed makes Vermont, Vermont (hence the take back Vermont bs). At one point there used to be more cows than people, and a lot of the forests we have now are because Vermont used to have a lot more farm land that has since grown over. Should we clear cut the trees to make Vermont, Vermont again by bringing the sheep farms back too?

Vermont was also the first to abolish slavery, shall we exile everyone who flies confederate flags here, or ban the flag itself, since Vermont was never a part of it and was openly against slavery before emancipation?

Because Vermont is a seedbed of change, and sometimes it's even ahead of the game! Americans traveling from other American states to this state in America are not trying to make it Boston part 2. You can catch up to this century and still preserve it. I think a lot of people confuse preservation with never changing anything. But if your house is already rotting now, you're not doing anyone a favor by leaving it dilapidated for the next generation. . .

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