Recent comments in /f/vermont

5teerPike t1_j252w5m wrote

Reply to comment by quartadecima in From a relatively new Vermonter who went back to the south for the holidays... by MissJudgeGaming

I don't think we need high rises in small towns to have more affordable housing, and the town i moved to just before the pandemic has been having the sidewalk debate for years. my neighbor, who is around my age aka millennial, is from Vermont and says it was a big issue when they were a child. It's silly! We also have unelected positions on our select board and it drives me nuts because they don't do anything!

Edit: I don't want to chop down the trees either, but they are an example of change that has taken place in the state that some would refuse to recognize for the convenience of their stagnant attitude.

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SlytherinTargaryen t1_j252ts8 wrote

Reply to comment by MissJudgeGaming in From a relatively new Vermonter who went back to the south for the holidays... by MissJudgeGaming

You got this!
Nah, a lot of people come here from cities thinking we're slow hillbillies for how we drive, and very confidently zoom straight off the road. As long as nobody dies, we kiiiind of think it's hilarious. Deer and black ice come out of NOWHERE up here.
ETA one time in high school my friends and I were taking it slow on the highway in winter when a Mass plate shot by with a middle finger up. Three miles later they had a car full of high schoolers laughing and waving at them as we went by them sitting in the ditch.

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quartadecima t1_j252eja wrote

Reply to comment by 5teerPike in From a relatively new Vermonter who went back to the south for the holidays... by MissJudgeGaming

>>Crazy that nimbys don't consider public safety when you have kids walking home from school on the side of the road.

Or wireless towers for expanded broadband coverage, or renewable energy generation for our climate aspirations. Who wouldn’t want sidewalks?

>>when changes are discussed in your locale more people need to ask themselves what really makes Vermont, Vermont; and we should then ask if the changes proposed actually threaten that, because most of the time it doesn't.

Well said.

>>At one point there used to be more cows than people, and a lot of the forests we have now are because Vermont used to have a lot more farm land that has since grown over. Should we clear cut the trees to make Vermont, Vermont again by bringing the sheep farms back too?

I suspect a some people’s misplaced sentimentality about overcrowded forests that aren’t even old growth gets in the way of forestry practices that would actually promote a healthier ecosystem. “bUt yOu CaNT cHop dOwn TrEes!” they say, though.

>>I think a lot of people confuse preservation with never changing anything. But if your house is already rotting now, you're not doing anyone a favor by leaving it dilapidated for the next generation. . .

Excellent point. It’s incredibly frustrating to see so much crappy housing stock that people try to pass off as “quaint” or “having character” or “being unique,” as though being “unique” is an end in and of itself, even if it is uniquely bad.

Also: God forbid we build high rises or allow for increased density in our urban areas (That was sarcasm). It grinds my gears that people complain about a lack of affordable housing in the same breath as opposing development of denser housing.

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5teerPike t1_j2513bn wrote

Reply to comment by quartadecima in From a relatively new Vermonter who went back to the south for the holidays... by MissJudgeGaming

I dont like them either, but they're the same types with "take back Vermont" signs too, so should we abolish gay marriage because it doesn't make Vermont, Vermont to them?

Frankly what does make Vermont, Vermont? And how does affordable housing, higher wages, cannabis dispensaries, and better pedestrian access take away from that?

People love the natural landscape, yet it's ruined entirely by power lines which some people argue is a facet of the landscape itself! We all know it's a lame excuse to do nothing, and the fear of outsiders trying to make Vermont something it's not is just absurd.

We should be able to say what it is first before being so afraid of what it shouldn't be. I have yet to meet anyone afraid of change who can.

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