Recent comments in /f/vermont

Websters_Dick t1_j2900h0 wrote

I'm well aware of the research triangle. I spent time both in High Point and in Raleigh. Are you saying that the wealth generated by the unpaid labor of slaves just vanished after the civil war? What a moronic statement. Guess what, it's almost like those buildings were built using slave labor and the communities that built them were able to build almost no generational wealth due to the economic policies in those regions both before and after the civil war.

You did it! We live in a society therefore we cannot criticize the negative parts of it! What an excellent worldview, I'm sure that leads to great improvement and not a constant stagnation and continuation of the status quo, even when it's inherently harmful to the general population.

Never said you had to hate it, just said you had to recognize it. You seem to have some trouble with reading comprehension. That next day labor and smiling customer service you see down in the south? Yeah, it's there because of the radial effects of slavery and continued poverty. Doesn't mean you need to hate it, just means you need to see it and acknowledge it. Vermont's tourism dollars and farm subsidies? You guessed it, tied to white supremacy and the removal of indigenous peoples from their land. I'm not the one who is ignoring it and trying to make excuses for it. That's you.

No shit bud, none of us asked to be born. But some of us are making excuses for the negative shit perperuated by society and some of us are working to correct those things

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bleahdeebleah t1_j28z5tf wrote

I'm going to be That Guy today.

It's so weird because pizza is so easy to make at home. You can get prebaked crusts at the store soon you don't have to roll it out or anything, shredded cheese, premade sauce, even presliced pepperoni and precooked sausage.

Takes one minute to throw together, it's cheaper, and better.

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MarkVII88 t1_j28z2j1 wrote

Clearly they expect to be paid a living wage, and probably have paid vacation with cheap health insurance. After all, "bottle boy" is no longer something you hire high school kids for. It's a full-blown trade and career, don't you know. Even then, it's not like the quality of employee would dramatically increase.

EDIT: Even though the full-time position includes paid vacation and paid sick leave, after the 1st year, apparently it's too much to expect anyone to be able or willing to work that long.

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WantDastardlyBack t1_j28vqil wrote

I adore my backyard fox. She's done a fantastic job at getting rid of mice and chipmunks. She doesn't seem to go after the squirrels as much, but that could be because my squirrels are the size of cats and have no fear. I also have a resident opossum in the trees. Not sure if it's a boy or girl, but that little one is often around cleaning up apples that fell from trees or tomatoes that had fallen from the ground.

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FyuckerFjord t1_j28vp4z wrote

Ah yes. The Research Triangle (look it up) is booming right now because of slavery.

Anyways, by your logic, you just said you live in a place that benefits from white supremacy so your points are as moot as mine.

Take that same energy into the activist community, but please don't make your thesis "You should hate everywhere you live and feel guilty you fucking scumbag." I didn't ask to be born.

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DamonKatze t1_j28uarn wrote

>culturally sterile corporate economy of strip malls, center-less, boulevard towns full of Appleby’s and Olive Gardens".

Hyperbole. I hardly think a few Little Cesars scattered around the state would constitute corporate sprawl. It actually might make some of these small town pizzarias step up their game as there are some really bad pizza places out there charging a lot for a shit product.
I think many people forget that we used to have Little Cesars all over Vermont years ago.

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Websters_Dick t1_j28ty30 wrote

Are you so fucking dense as to think that any of what you posted counters what I literally said? The reason those areas have the money they do is literally because of the wealth they stole while being built, and maintained through the exploitative system we live in. It has nothing to do with the current racial breakdown of any specific area. But look here, it's a liberal who would rather ignore the reality of how those wealthy liberal areas built their weath and then blame the rest of the state for their reactionary politics.

Weird, because Raleigh, NC had a pretty extensive redlining policy in effect long after the passing of the Civil Rights act. Wonder if that had anything to do with generational wealth unable to be built in impoverished communities.

And if you think I have problems with just the south, wait until you hear what I think needs to be done to correct the harms done to the indigenous communities in the US both north and south.

Vermont doesn't have the same issues that I noted in the same way, because Vermont wasn't built from slave plantations. But never once did I claim that Vermont doesn't benefit from the underlying white supremacist hierarchy in America.

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FuckYourselfWithFire t1_j28tcw8 wrote

"bought a second home here"

See, that right there is part of the issue. As another commenter rightfully pointed out, there is a shortage of workers here and so people from out of state may need to move here to work, but you're not contributing to fixing that issue. You're just taking away a home that a local person could have bought for themselves and their family and it's not even a house you need. I know people that have put off buying their first house for up to 3 years at this point because there's just not enough available for a reasonable price, because all of the potential options are being bought by out-of-staters for over-market prices, and these are people whose families have lived here for generations but are now being forced out of state due to a lack of housing.

Of course we're not going to run you out of town with torches and pitchforks. Vermont as a whole prides itself in caring for the people within our boundaries. But you're only hurting our situation, not helping it.

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Eagle_Arm t1_j28sew5 wrote

And there is a way you can do that that to correct behavior, you didn't do that.

That's also why you were pelted with downvotes, because it comes off like being a self-righteous douche. It doesn't come off as just stating two facts with citations. I'll assume you don't know what tact is.

I didn't jump to any conclusions, you can say you were just stating facts, but the overall comment was condescending. You are upset and here on the record being ignorant of how to try and effectively correct people because it hurt your feelings when you were told it was in poor form. Not really a great look. Do better.

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HappilyhiketheHump t1_j28se36 wrote

We have mandated recycling, so cans and bottles should just go into the blue bin. Then the revenue from the valuable recycled products could be used by the solid waste districts to reduce their costs and expand recycling and composting efforts.

Putting all recycling in the blue bin would eliminate all the costs of spent time, gas and CO2 associated with returning cans to a separate location to get $3.

This will never happen though because the legislature has “claimed” all the nickels not returned and dedicated the spending of that “revenue” to other environmental needs.

So we’re stuck with an antiquated system that wastes resources and costs all Vermonters a ton of time, cash and CO2 emissions just so we can sustain the progressively failing status quo.

That sounds about right for Vermont. smh

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