Chain enforcement in Washington, and BC, Canada have changed to Winter Tire enforcement, and only during a storm, and only if you are stopped.

The reality is you get a ticket if you cause a crash, block traffic, or need a tow because of summer tires.

I disagree that the majority of people who ask about chains are just trying to avoid other options. I think people who don't deal with snow just genuinely think chains are what you do because that's what they've heard about, and OP is curious where they got that information.

I grew up without snow and never had to think about different tires for different seasons until I went to college in New York. I've lived where it snows for so long at this point I don't remember what I "knew" before I knew, but I think it's just what people assume is done - winter tires haven't been around forever!

Good question.
Chains are needed in only the most severe conditions. I have used them once in Vermont. It was more than needed. Good tires will help more In snow.

Get good tires and drive for the conditions is better advice.

I have used chains more on ice with freezing rain on top of that. All in other places. And then, only for the worst hill, or curve. Drive for the conditions.

They seem to get a lot more snow and they gain much more elevation. I think the issue might be the grade is sustained for longer.

Its hard to describe it but its like driving in fresh pow lol.

So are the hills steeper over there or are they not salting/plowing as much as we do in the East?

I probably won't even bother mounting snow tires. I just have a feeling that it's going to be a mild winter.

Who's driving with tire chains? It's 60°. We had like...a day of snow

Agree 100%

Appalachians = snow tires

Rockies = chains

Yeah they are also good for dumps of deep snow on steep hills which is common out west.

that’s helpful, thank you!

They’re dumb

And it kind of makes sense out west given how you can drive from LA to Tahoe in a day. That’s a huge change in climate for folks who almost certainly wouldn’t have snow tires.

So, clean eating plus white flour and sugar (lots of white flour and sugar)?

Or “high quality ingredients?

Because people are mentally going through every possible option, no matter how unlikely to work, to avoid spending a bunch of money on a set of snow tires.

And some people may be from areas where using tire chains for mountain passes is an acceptable option for winter driving.

I grew up in Sacramento. I remember when it would start snowing up I80 and 50 there would always be alerts that chains were required at a certain point. I just figured that it was the same anywhere it snowed. On that note, I sadly think they get more snow there than here in Vermont now.

Hey there,Im a baker.There's a lot of bakeries scattered through vermont.Because this vermont, you're going to find a lot of different options like vegan,gf,organic. What you're trying to stay away from will probably be easy. Not sure where you're coming from but most bakeries in vermont,NY and New England don't play around.

take your “guilt free” ingredients over to r/NewtoVermont

There are no Whole Foods because Vermont has the greatest natural Co-ops in the nation. Upper Valley Coop in WRJ is small, but all natural. Across the river, Coop Food Stores in Hanover and Lebanon will have everything you need. Hunger Mt Coop in Montpelier is arguably the best all natural co-op in the country.

King Arthur flour company has the best quality flour, but I think La Panciata in Northfield is my favorite bread bakery in New England.

Because out west they have chain enforcement stations.

Also its and old timey thing.

Edit: I do have to add though route 9 does do chain enforcement for semis.

I’m surprised by this too. I’ve never owned chains. Only see them used on tractors.

I think some towns prohibit use of chains because it tears up the road.

Oh good point there are no towns south of Randolph other than Springfield or Brattleboro my bad

Oh good point there are no other towns south of Randolph other than Springfield or Brattleboro my bad

thank you!!!

like I said, it’s a personal preference. I don’t feel good consuming ingredients such as the ones I listed. I hope this helps clarify a bit

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