My husband and I have not driven awd or 4wd ever and we have been fine. However, there are some driveways/ dirt roads out in rural areas that would require awd at least during mud season or winter. Snow tires and knowing the roads you’ll be driving with the conditions is a must.

Out-of-towner here! I haven’t even SEEN snow since I lived up north 25 years ago, and definitely never had to drive in it. My only “experience” with what I should do is what I see in movies and what I hear from older folk down south who say “drivin’ in snow ain’t nothin’! All you need is to throw on some chains and you’re good to go!”

That being said, if I ever actually find a house in a place that has winters, actual research is the first thing I would do… but I suppose some folk just stick to whatever they have heard?

Why the nerve to accuse a law enforcement officer of such a thing my gosh

Probably, the upside to having winter tires is they help you deal with other shitty drivers. I’m a cautious and attentive driver but most people are not and having snow tires has made the difference on more than a few occasions between a near mess and a crash. Like when idiots turn out in front of you or decide to throw on the brakes instead of indicate.

This is the answer. I’ve been to Colorado many times and lived in Tahoe for almost 6 years. Colorado = snow chains to get to many places. Tahoe = recommended snow chains to get to most places.

Here, please just get snow tires for fucks sake

Not if I drive cautiously.

In your case cuz it’s easier to be a dick and twist my words apparently

You say that but I’ve already seen plenty of Subarus in the ditch along the same stretches of road that my rwd car navigate to just fine with snow tires.

Right when they open there's a line of retirees waiting to get in.

That’s not crazy at all. When I moved out here some years ago I drove through Colorado in late May not knowing that they could get tons of snow and ice that late in the season. Chains or snow tires were required going through the Vail pass, The road had been closed to all traffic the day before because it was that bad the next day the state put out PSA is about either having snow tires or chains. Obviously I don’t mess around now I have good snow tires. I just didn’t know any better back then.

The day before their new sales go into effect.

The old sale stuff is gone and the new stuff hadn't started yet. Blissful peace.

This comes from people unwilling to buy actual snow tires with studs to accommodate ice here in the northeast as our west where ice is less likely to get over mountains tire chains are often required on a 4x4 to make the pass.

Probably because their only experience with snow is driving through a few hours of it. When I lived in CA we would sometimes go to big Bear Mountain and snow chains are a hell of a lot cheaper than a set of winter tires when you’re only going there once every five or six years. Visitors don’t understand that snow tires are a good idea bordering on a necessity for about five months a year and that snow chains are supposed to be left on for hours not days. It’s the same reason why tourists come here in winter in freeze because they have no idea how to dress for winter.

The Rockies are younger, so it makes sense they'd be steeper.

I live in Denver. I70 goes from ~5300ft in Denver to over 11,500 at the tunnel. It takes about 60 miles to do so. In a storm, they constantly plow if they can keep up with the snow. They close the highway if they can't. Very few people around here use chains. The smart drivers use snow tires. The Texans end up upside in their truck wondering what just happened...

Colorado definitely has traction laws. Passenger vehicles needs AWD and appropriate tires. Trucks need chains. There is likely no way a semi could get over that pass without them in a storm.

I've been in many positions with my truck where I needed chains to get out.

If a job. Cannot afford to pay people. A living wage. The job shouldn't exist.

It sounds like we might be agreeing on that?

When I asked whether we would need chains of my Vermonter gf at the time, she laughed and asked me if I was from the ‘40s for suggesting them over snow tires.

To my Californian mind, it made more sense to have one set of tires and just put some attachment on them — till that very moment where I realized half the year was a long time for such a makeshift solution

Shocking! A cop doing something illegal and unethical? Color me surprised…

I used to manage a fleet with trucks out that way, they would get tickets for not having chains in the truck regardless of season, it was not something I had ever considered.

Beats getting fired for stealing a Timex. S/

Bruhhhhhh 😭

Yes but why bother

This job is not worth $18-20/hour. Maybe that sucks, but that's reality. I don't give a shit if this redemption center can't afford to pay people more. Maybe they shouldn't be open anymore. Great. That just means one or two fewer jobs out there for people who have basically no experience or qualifications or qualities

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