You make it seem like Vermont cooks actually know how to work a kitchen lol

I’m not positive, but I think that water you see is not making power. The water passing through the turbines comes out underneath the waterline. What you see here is excess water being released from the reservoir, probably because of all the rain and snowmelt we’ve had lately. If you can get up to see this release, it’s pretty awesome!

Eh like 5 months I feel like

What? You cant ask individuals to not move to Vermont based on politics lol

Confirmed, only place I use them is on my tractor even though yeah they're a little tough on my steep driveway. Be impossible without them though. Granted, also heavier than car chains.

So I don't really have any insights into how other people think, but I wonder if the appeal is the thought that they'd just be temporary for a bad storm or maybe for cars that are mainly on paved roads but might only need them to get up the back woods driveway if their rental house?

For my daily drive, studs are the clear answer

Few dirt roads and yes, very flat

I moved here from California and Vermont sucks imo. It lacks any type of amenities that most other states would have. The only saving grace that is here and the only thing that local hold onto is that the outdoors is literally on your doorstep. There’s a ton of trails n stuff so that’s good if you’re into it but…honestly you can obviously experience great outdoor activities in florida as well just gotta drive a bit. Food is terrible, people out here do not know how to season food and the selection is the worst I’ve ever seen. White people making Mexican food is never a great idea lol. I don’t hate this state but I plan on moving back home in the next 15 months. If you are older and have health issues you should move to a place in Vermont that has actual health services. Internet has been fine for me since I have xfinity. Grocery stores lack any product diversity. Coffee shops are solid imo.

Please visit for like a week before moving up and stay in the town you plan to live in.

His name is straight outta Sopranos.

I think that's why the upper valley is a great area. It really has a decent answer for many of those questions. EC Fiber for internet, Dartmouth Hitchcock for healthcare, 2 hrs to logan a little over 1 to Manchester airprt, great coffee all around.

definitely need multiple sets of tires and awd though and too spread out for food delivery.

I have a Honda fit and live in what’s considered northern Vermont. You’ll be ok.

Tire chains in New England?

They are mandatory in places that don't get a lot of snow, like CA (until you get to the Sierras). It's because all of those cars don't have snow tires. They'll wave you through a chain check with snows, or an AWD. If you live in NE, or NY, you do the annual thanksgiving tire change to snows. That's why our cars work, and cars from places that need chains don't.

Chains are the cats ass. Go anywhere.

Seems you haven’t been out west. Chains are mandatory for many passes and part of winter life. Usually snow tires + 4x4 will suffice. Semi truckers have it the worst though

That’s interesting grand isle wasn’t an issue. Why’s that? Flat enough?

No. The redemption program costs unnecessary time, money and CO2. Put the glass in the bin and it can be sorted at the recycling facility like all the other items.
Additionally, the value of recycled glass, even clear glass is very low.

Seconded. Merits pinning solely on the fact that we have amazing cheddar cheese. Outstanding comment overall!

I drive 1,000 miles a week for my compost pickup business, and while I don't pull them out often, I use my tire chains a handful of times every winter. Helps a lot in certain situations. And a good set was only $200. But I agree, dumb for most people. Shouldn't drive them on pavement, and if loose can rip your brake line.

Absolutely, if you live in some parts of Chittenden Co. you can avoid dirt roads, but practically everywhere else is not afforded the same luxury. When I lived in Essex on the Westford border I was often plowing through a significant amount of mud and getting stuck left and right. It’s been an issue everywhere I’ve lived except for Grand Isle.

Because they think chains must be a replacement for experience and knowledge? that must be why locals don't have that many accidents?

That’s not necessarily true. If you live and work in Burlington/s Burlington/Winooski/Essex etc, many many roads are paved and mud is not an issue.

Not from vt but frequent all of New England, also frequent Florida. Florida is full of things to do, if you’re a home body you may like it here but if you like anything exciting besides the outdoors you’ll be very disappointed. Employment is also a real issue, depending on your occupation you probably won’t make the same amount of money. Biggest thing I’ve noticed is the lack of new infrastructure, New England in general is becoming dilapidated while Florida is the total opposite. NH as of right now seems like the only state in New England with an actual growing economy that is translating into more private sector investment.

For real can we pin it

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A good set of studded snow tires and four wheel drive will get you anywhere in VT, just don’t try to drive faster than conditions permit.