I’m not a climate scientist, so I will let the NVU met kids tear you down, but your basic premise that warmer weather in the winter is NOT a result of climate change when Burlington is the fasted warming metro in the US is fucking moronic. BTV average daily temperature in winter has risen 7 degrees in the last 50 years. https://www.mychamplainvalley.com/weather/two-degree-difference/two-degree-difference-burlington-has-one-of-the-fastest-warming-winters-in-the-country/amp/

Take a second and look at the lake Champlain freeze record that goes back to 1820 The lake froze fully almost every year for the first 160 years, and has frozen fully 3 times in the last 15 years.

Extremes are the highlight of climate change. More freeze thaw cycles etc. if you spend ANY time outdoors in the winter you will see this change very easily, and it’s happening really time. Year after year it gets a little worse.

Idk about chittenden county, but the grounds still frozen here, minus the couple inches of slop on top.

Yes climate change is happening. In the last 100 years we’ve seen about a 3 degree increase in average temperatures. And waterbodies are thawing about 1.5 days earlier per decade. Once again, not at all denying science here. But we’ve literally had 40 degree days in January most years in the last 30 that I’ve been alive.

Using temperatures in the 40’s in January as an example of climate change is just as ignorant as using -30 temperatures in February as an example of why climate change in non existent.

Anyways, I’m done with the internets for the night. Have a good one!

Hey man kn4v3VT is being very patient and kind with you.

You should be thanking him for taking the time to actually engage in a civil discourse with you. That’s not what you wanted, tho, is it?

You come off as stubborn and naive and you’ll stay that way forever and probably be proud of it.

One more great video on this:

polar vortex and climate change

Here is a cool tool you can run on your desktop to actually watch the jet stream live:

unh windvis2 from chase ocean Engineering lab

Well I’m glad to hear you don’t think any school children identify as cats, but here is an 8 year old video on why the pattern of warmer winter weather shows this is not just a January thaw.

learn stuff

Furthermore we’ve had more days above freezing than below it this winter so far and it’s January now. For it to be a thaw, we would have had to have had something to thaw first.

I know you say you’re not looking for a full service sex worker, but that’s what you wanna look for. Find a FSSW and tell them what you want. You’re much more likely to get what you’re looking for that way. Hiring someone who does full service doesn’t mean they’ll ONLY do full service. Also there’s a ton of overlap between male dancers and companions, so even if you hire a dancer, there’s a good chance they do FSSW, too.

Dude. My point is there are no kitty litter boxes in schools, just like the weather this past week has nothing to do with climate change. Not sure how that went over your head.

It is a “city” but you referenced it to ‘this would be a good weekend in any other major city’. Boston has 20x the population of Burlington. New York has 200x the population of Burlington. Burlington is absolutely not a major city lol. It has the same population as Salem MA, where the which trials were. It’s ⅓ the size of Manchester NH, also not a major city. Its a tiny city.

Is that a Jimmy Lee reference?

I remember a big snow year in the 80’s when I was a teen. My buddy and I skied the woods between the Glades and Cliff Trail which were marked as a closed area at that tine. The powder was between knee an thigh deep, and neither of us had skied in deep snow like that before. I skied down into a little creek bed and heard a yell behind me. My buddy was nowhere to be seen but I could hear muffled screams. I tried to side step to him, but the snow made it impossible, so I popped my skis off and immediately sunk to my waist. I muscled and swam to get out of that little creek, and found him upside down in a tree well with only his ski tails visible. Fortunately, he could breathe, but he was totally stuck. Luckily, I managed to get his skis off, and dig him out. Neither of us realized how much danger we were in.

I’ve never seen conditions like that on Mansfield since. According to the records, the 80’s weren’t close to the really big record years, so I can’t even imagine what those must have been like.

Do I think that there’s an issue that will lead to a trend in rising murder rates? Probably not. Do I think issues that exist that by solving would probably lower the crime rate in general? One hundred percent.

Well we agree to disagree then, and your kitty box example is a wonderful place to end this whole back and forth while also showing where you get your information. Have a great night!

In your view misinformed hysteria is good if it leads to your desired outcome? Sounds like the same pandering everyone’s doing with “kitty litter boxes in Vermont schools for the furries.”

Personally I think ignorance is pretty dangerous, full stop.

What is the major city in Vermont if not this one

You need future data to know if it’s an anomaly.

My first thought is unfortunately Montreal - probably your best bet if you're looking for quality. I know that doesn't help but it's the way she goes in VT.

So let’s be clear:

Do you believe that there is an issue in need of addressing?

I get what you’re saying but I think it’s important that people freak out a little when it’s 55 degrees in Chittenden County on December 31st right after a hurricane force wind storm. It might cause them to think about change, or we can just say “whatever, it’s normal for a thaw”. One of those two actions have the potential to affect change we need right now. But, yeah, you’re right sooo ¯\_ (ツ) _/¯

That’s you making assumptions about my intent. I’m not responsible for your assumptions.

I like how you took the time to read my post, yet posted something entirely irrelevant. I’m not denying the existence of climate change at all. But our current January thaw had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Here is a fun exercise: take the date you were born and look at the global co2 PPM, and then look at today to see how much change has occurred. Then try to guess at what it’ll be when you’re twice your age today! Fun for the whole family

I hate complainers too, so I turned our collective crisis and inaction into a fun game!

You said it’s an anomaly till we have more data. That is saying that we should wait for data before we think it’s worth addressing. It’s implied in the statement. Gathering more data is inaction. I can’t be alone in recognizing that the entire world is broken… nobody trusts instinct and observation any longer. Everything is crippled by waiting for data, which is then argued over. Look at the world warming and species dying while people argue over data. This is another case of that. It’s an anomaly we don’t need to act. Nobody wants to make a decision and take an action.

Care to show where I said we should take no action?

But who cares if it’s an anomaly today? You are pretending that we shouldn’t act till we have more data. You must work in some corporate job where they just look at data and take no action.

January 6th 2021 had multiple people die in the transfer of power in the US. This was the first time in US history this happened. Statistically that’s an anomaly. But I bet you would agree that there is a problem with our democracy when that happens? Similarly these murders are a symptom of an issue and calling them an anomaly and writing them off is shortsighted and ignoring reality. Everyone sees the issue and anyone who pretends we don’t have data to say there is an issue is trying to avoid the truth.

The issue in a nutshell is drugs, poverty, and police who are afraid of being labeled biased or racist for doing the proactive policing and community outreach needed to reduce the crime.