Recent comments in /f/vermont

TheTowerBard t1_j3xah32 wrote

Ok. I'm happy that has been established. Lovely. Yet over here in reality waving someone through out of turn at a four way is not an actual societal issue nor a cause of many accidents. It's just something that annoys you and OP because you have control issues and it bothers you when people don't do "what they are supposed to." That's the vibe you are all giving off, anyway.

The majority of accidents are caused by impatient careless schmucks that got needlessly overly annoyed by someone else on the road and and are now tantruming about it in some way. So maybe calm down and give a friendly wave to the "MASSIVE JERK" who didn't know the rules and move on with life. You might have an argument in highly populated areas, but that ain't VT my friend. You and the 3 other people at the four-way can figure it out even if there weren't any rules.

Everyone's all "In Vermont you do what you want" until someone's grandma waves them through a four-way out of turn. Sheesh.

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TheTowerBard t1_j3x8etr wrote

Oh no!! Someone did a kindness at an inappropriate time on our very quiet VT roads that never have actual traffic. Whatever will we do?! I mean, they waved you through and now it's going to take the person behind them ten more seconds to get to their destination. The horror!! To Reddit! We must get the word out! A rule has been broken with an attempt at kindness, nooooooooooooooooooo!!!

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TheTowerBard t1_j3x6op7 wrote

The rules of the road say you don't have to let someone merge into your lane, yet if someone puts on their blinker most of us do because we aren't assholes. It also helps keep traffic moving for all. Kindness very much has a place everywhere and if you think it doesn't I strongly recommend some self reflection.

And yes, my god, here in VT we can share a little kindness with our fellow road dogs. This sub constantly complains about the shitty attitudes and behaviors from out of staters yet here you numnuts are arguing in favor of being an asshole to people on our very calm, uncongested VT roads. Give a smile and a wave to the person who waved you through. Don't tailgate the slowpoke. Accept that the world doesn't revolve around you and your wants.

And yeah man, I'll also encourage the slow pokes to be kind. You see a line of cars behind you and there's a pull off up ahead. Go ahead and take a little pit stop and let the other folks go by. Is this another form of kindness that has no place in traffic?

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Southern-Fox6524 t1_j3x2z33 wrote

I hear you. I just can’t imagine it not being cost effective to bury the lines. Yeah it would be expensive upfront, and it wouldn’t all be able to be done, let alone at one time. And it would be even more expensive to dig down there and figure out where the issue is coming from than it would be to physically see the issue from above ground.

But how much would we be able to save on emergencies services (whether it be the on-call GMP folks or the fire dept because of a live wire during a storm) — plus having to replace old equipment anyway? If we can’t reuse the above ground equipment and have to get new stuff anyway, wouldn’t that put us in better standing in the long run too?

How many years would it take to level out and we start profiting from the underground systems?

Everyone in this comment section just wants to point fingers about how expensive everything would be but where are the actual numbers? Has anyone even thought that far ahead?

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lavransson t1_j3x1iw1 wrote

I'm from the Washington DC area originally, and when I first lived in Vermont I thought the drivers were better. I do still prefer driving and living in Vermont by miles.

But like you, I'm noticing that Vermont drivers do pull out in front of you more. I was taught, "If you turn from a side road into a main road and cause the driver behind you to brake, then you should not have pulled out, you should have waited (or accelerated faster)." Many drivers in Vermont don't do this.

I also see a surprising number of red light runners, more than in DC (per capita). I am not sure why this is, but I figure it's two things: people thinking, (1) "There's hardly anyone out here on the roads, what difference does it make?" and (2) "There a less than 1% chance of a police officer being around, so I'm just going to run this light."

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