Vermont has a lot of niceholes.

I’ve driven in a lot of states throughout the country, Vermont might be my least favorite. Everyone here are such passive drivers to the point where it’s dangerous. Almost got in an accident just now because someone slammed on the breaks when they saw a yellow light cause god forbid we go through a yellow light.

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Two words - frost heaves

FYI you can pass on double yellow in VT, provided it’s clear and safe of course.

Ah. I see the straw men have entered the conversation. How very productive and mature.

Please my dudebro, by all means, take this energy and apply it to the people that pass cars when it’s not a passing lane. Apply it to the people that carelessly drift out of their lanes. Apply to the situations that are actual issues on our roads.

Let me rephrase your point:

"Gun safety isn't that important. Memaw is old, she can't remember things like 'trigger discipline'. When she's holding a gun and pointing it at you, remember to smile and nod".

If a person takes an animal using these methods due to need of some resource it provides or to protect some other resource they have i can reluctantly accept the need for it. We dont live in that world any more, anything you can get from any trappable animal technology and society has produced a replacement for often superior to what you may have made yourself.

No what we are discussing here and you are advocating for is the use of these methods to take animals for nothing more than recreation, for 'sport'. You take pleasure from this despite knowing that you are inflicting torment on said creatures. According to the DSM that is one of the PRIME signs of having ASPD. I cant believe that im am the person to have to tell you that torturing animals for joy is a bad thing,lol.

Huntington too

aCtUaLLy if you are stopped at the stop sign when meemaw waves you through you are not technically driving in that moment. You’re just sitting still in potential missile.

Hey man, I get it. Old folks annoy me sometime too. But let’s have a little respect for them, huh? Meemaw has been through enough in this life without people being jerks about her being kind when she “isn’t supposed to.”

3 months salary.

Long enough to establish they were truly tuned out and not just fumbling. I'm a native midwesterner - we don't like naked aggression either!

Nope, still disagree. You're driving a missile. Learn the rules. Being old is not an excuse.

How about adding "straight don't wait?" I feel like that's an important rule too.

Buried power lines are typically put in when neighborhoods are built. Many of the homes in Vermont were built before the grid was even a thing. Unless it’s a new neighborhood, I imagine costs would be the prohibitive factor in why they aren’t underground.

We have to keep the Vermont trolls fenced in somehow.

Doubtful any of 4 people arrive and stop at the exact same time. There always slight variations in timing. Whoever stops first is first in line. For 3 people furtherst to the right would be the one without someone to their right.

Too bad we lost the Burlington one, yeah, so fly rod shop hah

I always appreciate that the quick honk reminder to them to get off their phone and driving at a stop light is so often met with a middle finger. "Too nice" indeed.

I understand you feel strongly, however I suggest doing some research before spewing hate at a community you know nothing about.

I live on a hill in the sticks in Vermont at the end of the line for the local distribution network. We lost power for 4 days in the ‘big one’ just before Christmas. First priority when we got the house: backup power.

Think about how we are getting broadband throughout the state and how long that is taking. Consider that process is an absolute cakewalk when we are using existing poles and alignments.

Now think about burying the lines - many will be in existing roadways, many are across private property. Property rights, environmental permits, changing pathways if an existing aerial alignment cannot be followed.

This is a massive effort.

If we talk cost, consider the poles with transformers. A utility company rep told me shifting a transformer from the top of a pole to an underground concrete vault could cost $100k minimum under ideal conditions.

Boston is statistically one of the country's safest major cities to drive in, if not the safest. Iirc Massachusetts rates pretty highly as well

I have never understood the person to the right thing. what if 3 or 4 arrive at same time, who is on the right?

If everyone is coming to a complete stop at the stop sign and being aware of what other drivers are doing, no one is dying from any accident that could result from this situation. Give me a break. The extreme worst case scenario is a very minor fender bender.

We are discussing a situation that everyone is supposedly starting from a complete stop. When it's your turn, do you floor it? Do you have a vehicle that can go from 0-60 by the time it takes to clear the stop sign? This is silly.

Also, the rules have changed since the old couple down the road got their license. So maybe take some deep breaths and be nice to your neighbors even when they don't do what "they are supposed to." That way, maybe everyone else will be nice to your loved ones when they are out and about and maybe don't know the rules. Of all the actual issues we need address regarding road safety, being waved through an intersection out of turn isn't one of them.

I assure you that the tens of thousands of engineers who keep the power on daily have run the numbers more than once on this.