Recent comments in /f/vermont
Eagle_Arm t1_j4g2su6 wrote
Tldr: Author shocked to see majority of people hiking are white when hiking in state that is 94% white.
Tldr of that tldr: Author doesn't understand probability
Eagle_Arm t1_j4g270y wrote
Reply to comment by nolyfe27 in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
There's people out there who care about other people in the trail?
All I care about is people not blocking the path, littering, people not yelling/being overly noisy, and dogs on leashes.
After that, I don't care about much. Just four simple things.
nolyfe27 t1_j4g1h6j wrote
Guarantee if you are black and on a hiking trail nobody will harass you or think anything of it
nolyfe27 t1_j4g1ctp wrote
It's not easy for us poor white people to buy all the expensive gear either. Have you seen how expensive just a pair of real hiking boots are?
ceiffhikare t1_j4g13gs wrote
Reply to comment by NoMidnight5366 in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
I have a suspicion that Critical Theory as it is applied to the black experience in America has a lot to do with the writers perspective. I see a lot of articles with the same kind of general tone in them, citing the same set of works from that..field..whatever it is.
CR in itself i guess is just a tool to shift ones perspective but it was built around economic models IRRC so trying to bend it to other *(edit, just a typo,no i didnt get religion. ) *disciplines seems.. a stretch at best, which might be why the whole article seemed off to me.
NoMidnight5366 t1_j4g080a wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
The article could be much more positively written for example how to attract more POC to wilderness recreation rather than what white folks need to do to atone for this lack.
As someone who hikes/climbs all the time I know how welcoming and friendly people are on the trails. And why wouldn’t they be? You are flush with endorphins, bathing in nature— just in a good place. I’m always amazed at how friendly people are on the trail because this activity seems to filter out most of the assholes. I’m sure there’s still racists hikers, but in general the trails are a pretty welcoming place for people to be.
I have noticed once in a while when I’m out there I see a group of POC who are a little caught off guard when I randomly say hello or greet them as they are wondering why complete strangers are friendly. But that’s also just a part of city/suburban culture. People just don’t randomly say hi when you are walking down the street. But that is the culture of the trails and I’m going to continue to support that culture of welcoming and friendliness to fellow hikers regardless of their race.
Fun-Midnight1010 OP t1_j4fzny3 wrote
Reply to comment by jammasterjaydogg in Darn icy roads by Fun-Midnight1010
Shaws in Manchester,vt
zombienutz1 t1_j4fzkm0 wrote
richardhk33 t1_j4fzkln wrote
Reply to I used an AI to try and create the Quintessential Vermonter.i know about 3 people who look like this guy. How did the AI and I do? by The_Barbelo
I live in Burlington. I see that guy in the grocery and liquor store all the time. Sometimes at the cannabis dispensary, too.
[deleted] t1_j4fz2cz wrote
Reply to comment by Harmacc in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
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Harmacc t1_j4fyx1c wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
I perused your sorted by controversial comment history. These aren’t your first racist dog whistles. Piss off.
[deleted] t1_j4fyq05 wrote
Reply to comment by Harmacc in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
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Harmacc t1_j4fyezy wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
Ah there you are. Maybe that thing inside you is well known to you after all.
[deleted] t1_j4fya0x wrote
Reply to comment by Harmacc in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
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Harmacc t1_j4fxvrt wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
I suppose you didn’t read it
The only people it pisses off are snowflakes who don’t like the idea of not being the center.
The very title is about the fact that it’s for everyone.
If a PoC who says “maybe white folks shouldn’t be the default in the hobby” pisses you off, maybe you have some shit to work out that you didn’t know was inside you.
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Reply to comment by Harmacc in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
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Harmacc t1_j4fx2ab wrote
Reply to comment by ais72 in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
People in this sub making me eat my words for claiming that Vermont isn’t racist.
ais72 t1_j4fusps wrote
Great article!! Thanks for sharing. The author urges white people to acknowledge that they probably have “a deep and likely unrecognized sense of belonging in those [outdoor] spaces.”
Before you discard the idea that a hobby / space / group is not inclusive to all, please question whether you have an unrecognized sense of belonging, and imagine what it would feel like to NOT have that.
We should want everyone, especially those who have been historically excluded, to feel included and a sense of ownership of our shared Vermont and the outdoor spaces and hobbies we love.
shred-i t1_j4fuicf wrote
Reply to comment by GammaRaystogo in Urgent Request: need photo of the most “vermont” car there is. Like a 2000s subaru / volvo plastered with long trail stickers type thing. I need a photo! by [deleted]
Yep, it’s a sedan. Not sure I’d call that “Vermont” more like mental illnesses.
redbobcatit t1_j4fuh08 wrote
Reply to First time in my 15 years in VT that local, farm fresh, cage free eggs are cheaper than local commercial ones. Any one else experiencing this? by ranaparvus
We’ve paused selling our eggs for the winter as our flock of 14 has slowed their laying. Still getting a dozen every other day, but we’re on a poached egg kick so we’re going through that at about an even pace. I don’t think the $5/dozen we were charging would break even the way these girls are eating though. We still let them out every day but they’re plowing through food with their winter appetites.
Harmacc t1_j4fu11a wrote
Reply to comment by Ok_Slice_2952 in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
Is that a racist pun, or are you just oblivious?
Harmacc t1_j4ftzxv wrote
Black person writes an article about challenges PoC face in participating in outdoor activities-
White people on Reddit- MASH THAT DOWNVOTE.
Harmacc t1_j4ftr7d wrote
Reply to comment by monkeybeast55 in First time in my 15 years in VT that local, farm fresh, cage free eggs are cheaper than local commercial ones. Any one else experiencing this? by ranaparvus
Based on your other comment I don’t think you’re an anti vaxxxer (which I think is what the downvotes are about) I read the linked article. Some experts say it’s important to begin developing vaccines for birds and others worry it will somehow prolong the problem and make it easier to pass to humans.
Hopefully we have ready begun getting a vaccine ready for when it does lass to humans on a larger scale.
cpujockey t1_j4g3d2t wrote
Reply to comment by nolyfe27 in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
$20 bucks at Walmart. You don't need to go to OGE to do this shit. Stop trying to be part of the status quo. Hiking is hiking. You don't need fancy shit to do it. Our forbearers diddnt have shit and they were fine.