Recent comments in /f/vermont
casewood123 t1_j4gohyf wrote
Reply to comment by sinkinginkling in If you had to pick one restaurant in the greater BTV area which would be your favorite? (Pick 1) Why is it your favorite? Is it the food, atmosphere, people? by thegateway_way
Agreed. Super nice owners, and the people who work there are great as well. Add to that fantastic food.
ShamanLifestyle OP t1_j4goep6 wrote
Reply to comment by vwboyaf1 in moving to a rec cannabis state by ShamanLifestyle
See we wanted to move to CO but we're so worried about the hype around Yellowstone. It's like is it volcano is it not a volcano. If it blows do we want to risk being near the blast zone or debris field? Would there be time to evacuate? Just stuff like that, we've also heard it's hard to find places that aren't riddled with meth users.
headgasketidiot t1_j4go5ij wrote
Reply to comment by nolyfe27 in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
Not what the linked article is about at all.
headgasketidiot t1_j4gnuv0 wrote
Reply to comment by Eagle_Arm in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
This linked write up is very short, and you either did not read it or are willfully misrepresenting what it said. I am going to paste a section of it (like a third of the article; it really isn't very long) so people can judge your tl;dr for themselves.
>What follows is a composite of multiple conversations over the years. A White hiker asks me,
>“Why don’t more Black people hike?”
>I struggle to determine how to approach this question, where to even begin. Some would find the question intrusive. I don’t. I know that the intent is genuine curiosity. But I’m saddened by the ignorance of it. The answers are complex, but they are easily discoverable.
>I respond by flipping the question.
>Well, hmm. Why do you hike?
>The hiker may answer: “Because I love nature! I love being outside, I love physical exertion. Because I’ve been going since I was a kid. Some friends invited me as an adult. I went on a school, group or church outing. I was an Eagle Scout.”
>These responses highlight a focus on individualism and a deep and likely unrecognized sense of belonging in those spaces. A belonging felt so deeply that some might experience it as an entitlement, as a sense of ownership. Additionally, it is a hallmark of both white cultural conditioning and our nation’s value system to over-emphasize individuality and individual choice, even in the face of ready evidence of how our environments, our families, our communities and our shared history impact our realities.
>In this conversation, some hikers would even stop at, “I love being outside” – had they never thought more deeply to examine exactly how they had developed that love? They had received opportunities over the course of their lives to have varied experiences outside, never being questioned for their interest, rather receiving affirmation that what they had just done was strong, brave, cool.
>At this point in our discussion, a humble and open conversation partner sees the direction I am headed in, and I can share some of the ways that People of Color have been historically excluded from access to outdoor sports and even simply to nature spaces. I do my best to explain some of the history and the national ideologies centuries in the making that shape policies and outcomes. I draw on the scholarship of Carolyn Finney in her seminal book, Black Faces, White Spaces: Reimagining the Relationship of African Americans in the Outdoors.
You can agree or disagree with it in whole or in part until you're blue in the face, but don't just make up a bullshit tl;dr.
vwboyaf1 t1_j4gnp6b wrote
Reply to comment by ShamanLifestyle in moving to a rec cannabis state by ShamanLifestyle
I would also recommend comparing state benefits for disabled vets. Some places have huge tax breaks and free vehicle registration if you are over 50%. I only get 10% due to insomnia, but I still like the support infrastructure for vets out here in Colorado.
KITTYONFYRE t1_j4gnn8v wrote
Reply to comment by Necessary_Cat_4801 in Rutland school board settles on ‘Rutland’ as the name for school sports teams - VTDigger by Loudergood
no, it doesn't. it has a reputation for how it was 30 years ago, maybe. how often do you go to rutland and actually participate in the town?
SemperFuu t1_j4gnavt wrote
Reply to If you had to pick one restaurant in the greater BTV area which would be your favorite? (Pick 1) Why is it your favorite? Is it the food, atmosphere, people? by thegateway_way
“Shopping bag or go f*** ya mother!” -Joey Diaz
sinkinginkling t1_j4gn34q wrote
Reply to If you had to pick one restaurant in the greater BTV area which would be your favorite? (Pick 1) Why is it your favorite? Is it the food, atmosphere, people? by thegateway_way
Stone Soup. It’s comfort food to me, and I love the homey atmosphere.
ais72 t1_j4gmlqa wrote
Reply to comment by PCPToad83 in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
You SHOULD feel like you belong, but you should reflect on the fact that you are luckily to feel this sense of belonging. If you don’t realize that you have this privilege you may unintentionally be blind to the fact that POC do not feel this same sense of belonging, and you and the organizations you’re part of should make an intentional effort to make others feel included regardless of their race. Not saying you (or others) deliberately exclude POC but there are historical and societal barriers you may be unaware of, and this context necessitates working extra hard to be inclusive.
here_f1shy_f1shy t1_j4gmdsh wrote
Reply to moving to a rec cannabis state by ShamanLifestyle
I'd look in the greater Dartmouth ecosystem area. So White River junction, Norwich, etc. There is a VA Hospital, Vet Center etc. Plus the greater Dartmouth area has a lot going on so there is a variety of jobs. I am sure you could find something that fits your particular restrictions. If not working at the VA itself.
Semper Fi killer.
Edit:. The schools are good over there too cause, well, ddaarrttmmoouutthh snoody voice. A lil expensive though.
ais72 t1_j4gm7c8 wrote
Reply to comment by thirtythreeandme in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
You’re making a great point about inclusion overall in the outdoors industry. Why does it have to be either/or? We should create a more welcoming space for POC… AND we should create a more welcoming space for people new to the sport(s).
Unique-Public-8594 t1_j4gm6ye wrote
Reply to comment by Unique-Public-8594 in moving to a rec cannabis state by ShamanLifestyle
You might find this tool helpful in comparing town-to-town cost of living:
Climate_Face t1_j4glyzx wrote
Reply to comment by YesterdayNeverKnows in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
It certainly can be - this sub, that is. I’ve been downvoted for insinuating I like to drive fast
Edit: clarity
ais72 t1_j4glxsx wrote
Reply to comment by sound_of_apocalypto in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
I quoted this line because I think it captures something most white people often do not question. If you are white, you probably do not ever worry that your race makes you less welcome in outdoor environments and clubs/groups. The author is saying that POC on the other hand do not feel this intrinsic sense of belonging. And it’s not just the literal physical space of a hiking trail — it’s the community / group spaces like the GMC, like a subreddit for hiking and appreciation of the outdoors in Vermont. I can’t imagine something that screams “you don’t belong” more than being told your feelings and perspective are stupid and invalid, which is what a lot of other commenters are saying.
Unique-Public-8594 t1_j4glv9x wrote
Reply to comment by ShamanLifestyle in moving to a rec cannabis state by ShamanLifestyle
Good on you for thinking about quality of education.
Pivot here:
As far as which state, If it were me, I’d decide this way:
If you want the more liberal choice, love mountains, dislike billboards and traffic, and don’t care about ease of shopping, go with Vermont but if you need medical care it is an advantage to locate near White River Junction / Dartmouth.
If you prefer the warmest of the three, the generally more conservative choice, or will want to be closer to the ocean, go with Virginia. (Although as far as ocean goes, Michigan has Great Lakes, and parts of Vermont might be closer to Hampton NH than the Big Stone Gap / Rte 23 area is to the ocean.)
If you have people in Ohio you will be wanting to visit, go with Michigan.
Intelligent-Relief99 t1_j4gltb9 wrote
Reply to comment by here_f1shy_f1shy in If you had to pick one restaurant in the greater BTV area which would be your favorite? (Pick 1) Why is it your favorite? Is it the food, atmosphere, people? by thegateway_way
+1 for the food truck rally. Good food, good vibes for all
bigdishing t1_j4glri0 wrote
Reply to comment by Eagle_Arm in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
At no point does she say she was “shocked” to see a majority of white people hiking. Why deliberately misread the article?
She does say “Throughout the long process of its founding, the U.S. attempted to erase the history of the land it now occupies in order to build upon it a new identity which did not include Black, Indigenous and people of color in its narrative.” And that’s mostly (maybe not entirely) true and valid.
Necessary_Cat_4801 t1_j4glgya wrote
Reply to comment by KITTYONFYRE in Rutland school board settles on ‘Rutland’ as the name for school sports teams - VTDigger by Loudergood
Uh... Rutland has a reputation for a reason.
Necessary_Cat_4801 t1_j4glcq5 wrote
Reply to comment by sorryidontdoreddit in Rutland school board settles on ‘Rutland’ as the name for school sports teams - VTDigger by Loudergood
Pushing a cart out of Home Depot.
ShamanLifestyle OP t1_j4gl8wc wrote
Reply to comment by MudaThumpa in moving to a rec cannabis state by ShamanLifestyle
I lived in PA for 18 years, GA for 1 and a half, and ohio till now. I love different cultures. Never knew the real meaning of southern hospitality till I live in GA but u was in the military at the time.
vtmosaic t1_j4gl0em wrote
Reply to If you had to pick one restaurant in the greater BTV area which would be your favorite? (Pick 1) Why is it your favorite? Is it the food, atmosphere, people? by thegateway_way
Single Pebble. I love the food and atmosphere, the experience. Particularly fun with a larger party, where you can sample lots of dishes.
ais72 t1_j4gkg8j wrote
Reply to comment by pink-peonies_ in Decentering Whiteness in Hiking and Fostering Inclusivity Outdoors by honeybeedreams
Thanks for sharing your perspective. I hope others will come around to this approach!
wiryeasternpromise t1_j4gkaj8 wrote
Reply to comment by Sparrows_Shadow in If you had to pick one restaurant in the greater BTV area which would be your favorite? (Pick 1) Why is it your favorite? Is it the food, atmosphere, people? by thegateway_way
Seconded. Granted I'm biased since my wife and I got married there and has great memories from early relationship date nights. Their bar program is on point as well.
contrary-contrarian t1_j4gouuu wrote
Reply to comment by tddevine in If you had to pick one restaurant in the greater BTV area which would be your favorite? (Pick 1) Why is it your favorite? Is it the food, atmosphere, people? by thegateway_way
Probs best foods