Recent comments in /f/vermont

McGrupp1979 t1_j5g2z08 wrote

I’m not sure if you have visited WV much or recently. But Lonely Planet ranked WV the #2 Travel Region in 2022, the only state in the US to be selected.

The creation of a new National Park, New River Gorge, definitely helped. But if you wanted to visit a nice tourist town you may like Lewisburg, Fayetteville, Davis and Thomas, or Elkins. If you wanted something even more unique try Helvetia.

Point being there is more to WV than the stereotypical hillbillies working in coal mines and drinking moonshine.

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Kixeliz t1_j5g1693 wrote

but you were able to work for your shit, you were able to get loans and mortgages because the color of your skin was not a barrier. People seem to think systemic racism means white people don't have trials and tribulations in their life when what it really means is the color of their skin had no impact on those trials and tribulations.

You see a cop and you hope you won't get a speeding ticket, my black friend hopes he doesn't get killed and is terrified driving in lily white Vt. You can ignore the reality of the situation all you want, I have no illusions about changing the opinion of someone who actually wishes they were "born a minority."

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ceiffhikare t1_j5g0edn wrote

No i deleted that comment..which you left off the last part of btw, because i am trying to be a bit nicer to.. others in general and rise above my instincts to just lash out.

We all see things from our own perspective, no matter what lies you tell yourself. The power station attacks have been talked about in right wing militia groups since the mid 90's when i first ran across them. The neo nazi's have always been chanting BS like that..where have you been for the last 30 years? You are right in there are many who do want to hang on to the hate, but its a very small vocal minority of white people overall that feel that way.

No i am only 50 yo not 200 so no head start. my family has been dirt poor for like 3 generations..wrong skin color so there were no programs to boost them ahead in life. We all had to work for our shit.

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Kixeliz t1_j5fyi6s wrote

I can see why you deleted this comment:

> Nah man, you can whip yourself with the flail of white guilt but i aint taking none of that BS. Nobody chooses the shell we are thrust into. I would have loved to been born a minority

You really only see things from your own perspective and judge everything else accordingly. When the FBI is currently investigating Neo-Nazis sabotaging energy infrastructure in the northwest, when they march with tiki torches chanting 'Jews will not replace us,' it certainly seems like a certain sect of society does not, in fact, want to move on, let alone acknowledge the damage that's been done and continues. You got a 200-year head start and now you want everyone to play by the same rules.

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sugarplummed t1_j5fxxvc wrote

Or, they read the implementation pages and we're like nope, were not going to actually try to be more inclusive?? The implementation pages have pretty clear actions they are committed to taking or trying to take. I'm wondering if they missed those at first and were like hell no, were not going to actually get into the weeds on this topic?

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somedudevt t1_j5fv13y wrote

Who doesn’t moonshine? You need to hang out I. Better crowds if your not encountering home distilled spirits. We don’t do the make you go blind shit that they do down south, but the reason we have a lot of micro-distilleries that are making high quality products is because we have a VERY strong home distill culture, some with money go legit, but most are just making good whiskey, vodka, gin, etc for friends and family which is moonshining.

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ceiffhikare t1_j5fukjo wrote

It is not a problem in the sense that there are now laws against it, society IS moving on. not only that but you can see in nearly every aspect of society policies that elevate POC over white people to the point where it is now almost a handicap in applying for positions in education and the labor force if you are white.

Painting an entire demographic as too stupid to know what is in their own minds and hearts is what statements like this do. IDC if your mad that im pushing back, no i dont feel attacked, i just think this crap is not needed and actually counterproductive to progress.

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wittgensteins-boat t1_j5ftuoy wrote

Talk to your Federal Representative and Senator. USPS has limited authority to raise rates, and is by Congress mandated to make payments that businesses do not, and provide services that have no revenue.

Congress has already privatized the USPS, but saddles it with items that make it impossible to breakeven.

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somedudevt t1_j5frymt wrote

I lived in both. Way more different IMO. Poverty is the same, the racial makeup is similar, but how people approach life is totally different. They embrace religion and regressive policies that continue to exacerbate the issues, refusing to let go of the past, while VT has gone though many economic phases and isn’t stuck trying to keep one. No body here is advocating for major Potash factories to open, or for the copper mines to reopen, or the clear cut all the land for sheep, or that having the garment industry back would save the towns. We accept that change occurs and we adapt. They refuse to accept that coal is dying, and as a result they are dying.

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