Recent comments in /f/vermont

Ket406 t1_j5nda2t wrote

Hey! I am in Montana too, and have been looking since 2018 in Vermont, but finally got the ok with work to make it happen in fall of ‘21. I have also given up at this point. I was turned away twice (not even allowed to look) from properties because we did not have all cash.

The greed run up is exactly what happened in Montana in the early 00s. Have you been back to MT recently? It’s basically a whole population turnover. White fundie Christian flight is real and I swear they all came here.

Hope you find your spot. No place is perfect but Vermont is pretty great. We have started looking in other areas. Kid starts kindergarten in the fall, so I don’t have the luxury of waiting out the real estate bubble.

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BTVwifey t1_j5na37y wrote

Same-ish, actively looking for housing in other states. Moved here for school, stayed for the charm, totally over the stealing, break-ins, and murders. Also tax increases, rent increases, and general vibes.

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DasWheever t1_j5n9r9t wrote

Well, some people need the studded snows, and some don't. It's icing, I don't fucking go out. Part of not having studded snows is knowing when not to go out.

I've driven in this state for almost 40 years, without. Cuz I'm either just that bad ass or that stupid.

But: I'm damned sure my wife has studded snows, because I want her to be as safe as possible.

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[deleted] OP t1_j5n87wp wrote

You moved somewhere because it reminded you of a time before people started moving to where you used to live…irony is absolutely dead.

On a real note, Vermont is absolutely, incredibly overpriced for housing. My house has doubled in value since I bought it a mere 9 years ago. It’s bonkers. I hope your situation gets better.

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you_give_me_coupon t1_j5n6m63 wrote

I can't wait for you to provide some "nuance" or "complexity" and explain to regular Vermonters getting priced out of their home state that parasitic rent-seekers have nothing to do with it. Or maybe, "it's not happening, but if it is, it's a good thing!"

I know a few working-class families living in cold houses right now because that's all they can afford. One family lives in an apartment with only one heat pump for heat that shuts off when it's 40F outside. Another recently had to move after getting carbon monoxide poisoning from an unvented furnace in the cellar that the landlord knew about and refused to fix. That's illegal! You might say. Maybe it is, but that doesn't matter if you don't have money enough for a lawyer, or if people who might be able to help (a tenant's union in this case!) don't care because you look poor.

I don't expect you to cover any issues like that. After all, the class of people listening to and funding VPR are (by and large) either rent-seekers themselves, or not harmed too much by the current housing crisis.

PS: Before anyone asks, no, just building more houses won't fix it. If we did, who would buy them? Certainly not the people who can't even afford a place with working heat. It would just be more of the same: wealthy third-home-owners, speculators, and private equity ghouls.

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Hagardy t1_j5mpelp wrote

We have a ton of prime real estate that is sitting vacant, like the old Boves, the YMCA, the gas station on Pearl, the transmission shop on North Winooski, the Koffee Kup building and more. It’s clearly better for these owners to use it as a tax write off than to sell or redevelop, and there’s zero political motivation to disincentivize this on any side of the spectrum.

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