I understand that things don’t always go the way you want. You just have no way of knowing the exact situation you will be in. But I’d rather have a gun for another guy with a gun, than attempting to engage him by hand instead of (potentially) at range and from behind cover. The guy in LA got lucky, and the other guy had the misfortune of being in a town with shit cops. But also, if he hadn’t gotten shot by the cops he woulda been shot by the shooter anyway so it’s actually moot as regards your argument. Congrats, you played yourself.

Yeah, so you have clearly demonstrated your level of restraint towards people of differing views. I’m going to remain civil, not because you deserve it or anything. You are trying to put all gun owners in this box of paranoid, scared, “compensating” which is closed minded nonsense. I drive a Honda mini van and drink fiddlehead and listen to classical music 😂 I am happy I have never had to use my weapon, I’m not chomping at the bit like you make me out to be. Your virulent attack on my opinion is welcome… but that’s just your opinion man. You are entitled to it, as I’m sure you let everyone in your life know on a far too regular basis 🖖🏻Bards gonna sing tho, even if nobody cares to listen to them

California has 20 times the population of the three states you listed.

Don't hurt yourself reaching

Lmao no

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VT,NH,ME all are as lenient as you can get; being Constitutional Carry States. The amount of GV in Northern NE is minimal at best.

CA has the tightest restrictions in the nation regarding permits and types of firearms allowed; which didn't prevent a GD thing insofar as recent headlines. Same can be said for NY as well.

Go figure. Maybe its less the guns and more the social fabric that binds us.

Hey, remember that hero in Colorado who killed a mass shooter and then the cops showed up and killed the hero? Hey, remember the unarmed hero who disarmed the guy in CA last weekend and lived to tell the news about it and become a national hero?

The point is, the hero fantasy you guys have doesn’t always play out the way you expect. You literally just sent a long explanation showing you are paranoid and again, paranoid people should not be out and about with guns 🤷‍♂️

Not to mention the statistics that show that you and your family are far more likely to be accidentally injured or killed by your own guns than you are likely to ever use them for self-defense.

Guns don’t make us safer. They don’t make your family safer. Sorry if that hurts your fee fees.

Please don’t…. These are one of the biggest a-holes on the road 🙄🙄

My favorite at parker pie. I was skeptical but it's so good.

Your choice of words, "far too many of you", "overcompensating", "living in a constant state of fear" ... clearly illustrates your opinion on firearms and those who own and use them. Your ignorance is showing through your condescension.

I, personally, don't make a habit of carrying; concealed or otherwise. But I do on occasion, and I also don't judge those who do; specially if I don't know their circumstances. Maybe it's a victim of DV, maybe a cop or security person, maybe .... WTF knows...

What I do know is that, like me, they likely take firearms as serious as cancer, train very regularly, follow the 4 rules like gospel, and will be the first to say "I'm retreating so I don't have to shoot and kill you" in the event of a confrontation.

Everyone I know who CC's is like that; very comfortable around firearms for the tool it is. I'm sure there are exceptions who match your bias but rare (or gangsta).

Because .... its Vermont (or NH, or ME); gun laws are loose because most all people are sensible. The statistics confirm that even if it has your panties all in a bunch.

That’s not the point at all. It’s the fact that even in very safe places anything can happen. Mass shootings aren’t just in the major cities like the one in Orlando or Las Vegas. Aurora CO is a good example. None of you had ever heard of that town before or since. Unfortunately our little state could have a mass shooting at any time, in any place. The fact that it’s a safe place allows people to let down their guard and this makes it a bigger target. And I’ll be damned if I’m gonna be the dude that goes down with a fight or watches their loved ones die to some psycho just because “it’s a safe place we don’t need guns”. Fuck all that. I might even be the dude that saves your soft liberal ass as well. So I hope it never happens. I hope I never have to use a firearm against another human for any reason. But if it’s me or my loved ones, or other innocent folks, or some asshole that wants to murder innocent people, I’m pulling my firearm from my waist and emptying the fuckin clip.

Welp we’re fucked

Generally the tactic in negotiations (politics or otherwise) is to ask for way more than you'd be happy with, knowing things will get cut back. Then in the end, you end up closer to where you actually want to be.

I beg to differ - this wouldn’t be a case of “the defendant had significant wealth to be gained from the murder of Jane doe” because hate isn’t a rational motivation it can’t be explained or determined rationally. It’s just begging to be abused by those seeking to strip guns from people.

Also, in context an honest reading of the 2nd amendment intends “well regulated” to mean strong functioning, well maintained. Why would they write an amendment saying the right to own guns will not be infringed, but then give govt tons of power to regulate? Doesn’t make logical sense especially given the context of the time.

Joseph… I’m from here. I’m very aware there are far too many of you out there overcompensating for things in life and/or living in a constant state of fear making you feel like you need a gun at all times. You don’t have to be so scared all the time big fella.

Saw a semi with a huge trailer on 91 with about a foot of snow on top. Not too many bright thinkers out on the road this winter.

Indiana has more gun violence than Illinois per 100k population.

Cherry picking stats leads to faulty conclusions.

Guns travel, but there's a general correlation between gun violence and lax gun laws if you look at state wide trends.

Boston, Massachusetts. God speed.

> We live in a very very safe society ...

Pretty much says is all. A Constitutional Carry State in which gun violence is a rounding error. And, FWIW, you have no clue as to how many VT'ers are concealed carrying (or have vehicle guns) because nobody advertises it. Its a lot more than you would think, specially in rural parts.

Just because you may not agree is not cause for your judging others POV WRT exercising a constitutional right.

I’ll look into them! I appreciate all of the help :)

NY cops suck man.

I've never even been pulled over in Vermont, but in Plattsburgh I've gotten two tickets, one for going 58 in a 45 (I legitimately missed the 45 mph sign at least partly because I've never seen those on proper highways here) and the other for having an out of date VT inspection sticker on my Vt-registered car (that I'm fairly certain NY cops can't enforce...)

Hello! Thanks so much for your insight and we would love to take you up on that offer. I’ll reach out via DM!

Practice makes perfect!

Half of Vermont households own at least one firearm. Guns laws and legal ownership aren’t the problem, it’s the people perpetrating and committing crimes.