Recent comments in /f/vermont

somedudevt t1_j5wtap5 wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in self-defense effectively being banned in Vermont. by Northwoods01

Right but free is free. All of those things were expanded freedom. You are revoking freedom. And I’ll pose it to you. Who is going to protect you when the massive arms stockpile on the right and the militias they are forming comes to the door? I don’t want to have guns for that, but I can tell you that 3 weeks before 2020 I bought 3 guns and a bunch of ammo, and I can tell you I was armed during that period of unrest. While I know that from your standpoint more guns isn’t the solution, in the end it is most of the time. The cats out of the bag. You can’t round up all the guns in the state let alone the country. There are a billion in the country and over a million in the state. The only thing we as individuals can do to be safer is to not be an easy target. Learn to shoot. Get a defense gun for the home. You don’t have to open carry, and you don’t have to be afraid. But you have to at least accept that the world is unpredictable and being ready is a good thing.

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somedudevt t1_j5ws9xi wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in self-defense effectively being banned in Vermont. by Northwoods01

One question for you:

When the fascists come, who is protecting you? Did 1/6 not tell you anything about the state of affairs in this country? Ammo has been being produced at record speed for the last 7 years and you can’t buy it because people like Daniel Banyai are buying it all for reserves. We as the other side need to learn, respect, and be comfortable with guns. It may never happen that shit hosts the fan, but I can tell you that 1933 Jews were probably not expecting what happened to them either. You can’t be the sheep when the wolf comes around.

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mellercopter t1_j5wra3x wrote

Reply to Snow phrase? by nowfromhell

If you're indoors there is the obligatory "It's really coming down out there" which works for rain and snow.

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somedudevt t1_j5wr0re wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in self-defense effectively being banned in Vermont. by Northwoods01

Guns are a part of Vermont. They have been since before any of us. They are in the VT constitution MUCH more clearly than the US. The majority of Vermonters and Vermont families have guns. The people who don’t are not from vermont and are trying to change Vermont. It’s that simple, if you don’t like where you moved (or assume ur parents moved since most of the anti gun posts are 15 year olds) then probably go somewhere that is more in line with that.

Can’t we just let people do what the fuck they want like we have for 260 years successfully?

Gay marriage? Go for it Change genders? Do it up Abort a fetus? Have at it Pray to some fucked up god and start your own religion? We wrote the manual on it Never talk to a person again and be a hermit? Why not Walk around naked? Don’t forget to carry a sweater for when you get cold Carry an AR at the store? Sure Ride a bike in January? Could do it

The point is NH says live free or die, WE FUCKING LIVE IT! Stop trying to change that it fucking works!

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joeydokes t1_j5wp9h9 wrote

Reply to comment by TheTowerBard in self-defense effectively being banned in Vermont. by Northwoods01

Your 2mo old, 0 karma account and your condescension aside, your ignorance is astonishing. Gun control laws on the table in other (liberal) States combined with the current ATF ruling on braces that's clear as mud is a clear indicator of how wrong you are. Sadly so.

Millions of people who legally and rightfully purchased firearms and who are abiding and no contributing factor to GV are, in fact, at risk of having to surrender them. You cannot overlook that truth, even if you want to preach public safety being the 'greater good'. Which in and of itself is debatable.

Go Sheesh youself.

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somedudevt t1_j5wox72 wrote

Reply to comment by TheTowerBard in self-defense effectively being banned in Vermont. by Northwoods01

My man, I’d like to offer you the opportunity to try guns out. The thing about anti-gun people is they lack experience. I too was very anti-gun in my teens and early 20s. I was raised by a hunter, and tried it as a kid and it was not for me. I got to high-school right as Michael Moores movie was coming out, and I became opposed to guns as bad things bad people had. An interesting thing happened to me in my early 20s, I was given a shotgun that had belonged to my grandfather and father. I didn’t have a ton of interest in it, but since both had been dead since I was a little kid, I thought I would try to experience it as a way of connecting. So I went to a range and with a buddy we shot some clays.

There is something strange that you feel when you are at a shooting range, it’s that adrenaline, but in a controlled and safe environment. From that point I started collecting guns, at one point even getting a FFL. Over time I’ve stopped shooting due to cost and other priorities, but I still go 1-2 times a year, and every time I feel the joy. I have what I would assume is a fairly average collection of guns by gun owner standards with 8 assorted guns (plinked, duck gun, grandpas gun, hunting rifle I bought when I thought maybe adult me likes hunting NOPE, couple handguns, and then some international guns from Nam and ww2.)

I don’t actively carry out of fear or for any real tangible reason, but there is usually a pistol locked up in the truck, that depending on the day I may carry with me. It’s not really for any reason other than to be prepared. I’m not afraid in Vermont, though I have had a gun pulled on me by a drug dealer at a bar when I was younger. I carry, when I carry, because I have the right to carry.

I think that if you got some experience with firearms at a range trying out different ones you would change your tune on them. Not everyone is a nut job who carries. In fact I’d bet that of the Vermonters who carry the most common use of their carry firearm is to dispatch a wounded animal that’s been hit by a car after contacting a warden or state police barracks, which is the only time I know of any of my friends using theirs outside of range days.

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joeydokes t1_j5wo5ay wrote

Reply to self-defense effectively being banned in Vermont. by Northwoods01

lower in this thread are comments on drug use, addiction, legalizing drugs....

This is so relevant to GV that few seem to grok. Broken systems, corruption in our kakistocracy, and lack of health care aside; people are hurting. They are on prescription drugs, street drugs; anything to lessen their pains.

The 'working class' has been in a downward spiral since Regan. Play "follow the $" and realize hard drugs will never be legalized (cuz 'just say no'!) Let billionaires decide our future and realize universal health care will likely never happen (no job - no care, little worker bee). Most people are one serious health emergency away from bankruptcy.

Whether the issue is suicide/despair, or gang shootings (over drugs), GV is a symptom of our problems, not the cause. The cause(s) are escalating in a nation founded on violence. Police will not protect you and are barely able to solve crimes after the fact. That reality setting in is what's driving people to take responsibility for their own safety whether their perceived risk is real or not.

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