Recent comments in /f/vermont

Corey307 t1_j6nyow9 wrote

There might be enough people if most people were using it but most people wouldn’t use it because it’s inconvenient and in many situations cost far too much time. If I’m reading the map right the closest stop to Burlington is north of the airport and both Burlington and South Burlington are quite large so unless you had a dozen buses running you’re going to have to walk miles to your destinations including the airport. You have to wait for the train then wait for a bus and then still have to walk and that that is not going to work for a lot of people. Sure it might reduce stress from driving a little bit but if I can get to the airport from Milton in 22 minutes, Saint Albans in 35 minutes or Montpelier in 50 and not have to worry about rail schedules and bus schedules versus a minimum hour and a half to two hours between rail and bus and worrying that everything doesn’t run perfectly I would rather drive. Using rail and bus makes some sense if those routes fit your daily commute but they won’t work for a lot of people.

They also make it a lot more difficult to do things besides go to work. Say I want to go to target and shop before work and then go to Hannaford‘s before I head back home, if I have my car stuff from target goes in the trunk in the morning and groceries go in the trunk in the evening. Not only would I have to expect a significant amount of time getting to these locations I would have to wait for a bus each time to get me back to the train station or to get me closer to work. Then I’m lugging around several bags of crap and that’s not fun.

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Corey307 t1_j6nyesl wrote

Well said, I would be 100% for trade or light rail service around the state except I don’t see a lot of people using it if they then have to walk miles to get to their destination or destinations. Even if rail was paired with a robust bus system it’s still much slower than driving And the state already has a severe lack of blue-collar workers so finding hundreds of people to drive trains and buses is a problem.

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Calm_Captain_3541 t1_j6nxa5d wrote

Spray foam releases more CO2 than it saves over its lifetime, is a pain to work with for subcontractors, and is also toxic and will most likely be looked at like we do asbestos now in a couple decades.

And I haven’t even mentioned how it traps moisture against your framing causing rot after only a few years.

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Corey307 t1_j6nwq6y wrote

Thank you, I should’ve known by your name that you knew more than I do haha. Hey I’m not asking for legal advice or anything but if someone wanted to insulate a basement is that something you can do as a homeowner or are Vermont state regulations too strict? Because I was thinking about just laying some R19 between the beams as a balance between cost and energy savings. But if I had to also use foam and then drywall it I’ll probably let the next owner do so. That’s something I missed when I bought the house since I’m originally from a warm climate, I’m disappointed my home inspector didn’t say anything but I heard they passed away so it’s not like I can do anything about it.

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HeadPen5724 t1_j6nwbtp wrote

I don’t see two party rule as any more of a problem than 3 party rule. All parties suck as far as I’m concerned, and as long as we allow political parties to run out elections whether it’s 2,3 or 5 doesn’t really matter. Get rid of all party affiliation on election material and maybe we can rid ourselves of this ridiculous party system all together.

Time isn’t an issue. We mass mail out ballots now.

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HappilyhiketheHump t1_j6nvpca wrote

The increase in violent crime is primarily due to the sale and use of illegal drugs.
Some illegal drug use can be attributed to economic issues, but most illegal drug users just like being high, often to overcome a difficulty in life, get addicted and will do whatever is required to get high.

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KITTYONFYRE t1_j6nutio wrote

> All im saying is ive never had the inspection sticker stolen off my car in my home town, 25 miles away.

golly I sure love anecdotal, tiny sample size remarks used to judge 16,000 people off of 1 person's actions. very defensible argument you have there!

> But it is objectively shittier than the surrounding towns.

it's on par with most. worse than some. better than others. its fine. its average. it's not some particular den of scum and villainy.

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SomeConstructionGuy t1_j6nud1m wrote

It’s not my money, I’m the builder.

I think you missed the part where I said r32 is cheaper than foamed 2x6. R32 is cheap now relative to just foaming the walls. And just straight batts don’t meet code so you’re stuck with some combo of foam and batts at minimum.

There is no financial reason to not do this now. There’s reasons builders don’t want to, but it’s not money.

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Disastrous-Baker-914 t1_j6ntrau wrote

There's no cops in rutland because of all the police backlash all the good ones have retired. I personally know more then a hand full of greate officers that work in multiple southern vermont towns amd they volunteer for the football and wrestling team at my son's school. They are the thin blue line and we need more of them

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Corey307 t1_j6ntlx7 wrote

Of course I’m assuming it cost more since the article said they spent about 10% more on this house than they would a traditional build and building a house these days costs at least $300,000. I get the environmental aspect I’m saying that the financial aspect isn’t great. And r32 is not cheap, I’m not telling you what to do with your money I’m saying that fully insulating the house with it is a major expense. I’m also not quite sold on the airtight house idea since our house is supposed to breathe at least a little bit, if you don’t go outside for a couple days the air is going to start getting pretty stale.

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SomeConstructionGuy t1_j6nt3s4 wrote

Few flaws in that argument.

You’re assuming energy prices will remain the same and that the insulation costs more.

We’re getting r32 ish walls for less money then foamed 2x6 walls. The attic is easy, just blown in more. Windows can be just good double pane. Nothing crazy needed.

And you skip the whole heating system and have 2x 15k heat pumps. That’s a savings of 10k or more. Heating with a current heat pump is ballpark same as the cheapest natural gas.

So for the same money you can skip the boiler/furnace, Insulate well, have heat and AC and still pay the same or less for heat. You don’t need to offset with solar that we can agree on for sure.

The air sealing has the added benefit of making your house last longer too.

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Corey307 t1_j6nsk9r wrote

You would not in any way pay for that much insulation and windows in 10 years, not even close. My home is significantly larger than theirs and I maybe pay about $2000 a winter to heat it and next to nothing in the summer to cool it because I’m stubborn and just use a fan or two. And that’s heating with propane and electricity Mostly leaving the thermostat at 70 since I don’t have a smart thermostat, I could get that cost down by more than half if I used wood. They’re paying around $40,000 premium on tons of insulation and high end windows. They also bought solar panels to run the heat pump. But even excluding the solar panels it would take at least 20 years to get back their investment and then that time they could’ve turned that $40,000 into more like $100,000 in a high-yield mutual fund. Since they have solar panels they could off and heat their house with free electricity if it was of traditional construction instead of sealed up like a bank fault meaning they’d probably spend a lot less and not even recoup their money in 30 years let alone the opportunity cost of investing that money.

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1DollarOr1Million t1_j6nsab0 wrote

Bruh what about what I said made you think I was “triggered”. I genuinely think that the laws in NY and CA suck. I am very pro-2A, although don’t let that make you think I’m a right-winger. And those 2 states are very bad as regards violation people’s personal rights and liberties. Also the taxes, the housing crisis and homelessness issues in both locations, etc. It’s two fucked up places that we should not want to emulate in any way.

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