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KITTYONFYRE t1_j6oviwe wrote

no. less popular parties will get MORE votes. this is literally the basis of how it helps (but does not prevent or totally dissuade from) two party rule

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting

this is discussed under "resistance to tactical voting"

and fun fact, this is under "voter confusion":

> Research shows that voters in general can understand and use IRV. Various surveys in the U.S. found 80%–90% of voters reported understanding the ballot very well, and 90% reported it was easy to use. Voter comprehension increased with repeated use, eliminating demographic disparities over time. Older voters were more likely to say they found the system confusing, but in practice correctly completed IRV ballots at the same rate.[20]

so education isn't really a big deal either

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-sallysomeone- t1_j6oux3t wrote

Flying Goose Pub in New London, NH

From Boston, you'll take 93N in Concord to exit 17, and get to cruise some easy back roads for a bit without going out of your original way. Great views of Kearsarge, and there's an awesome seating area near the bar with said views. Restaurant is family friendly. You'll pickup 89N at exit 11.

If you do go this way, stop at the gas station (there's only one) in Salisbury NH and get you some of their cookies. If you have a sweet tooth you won't be disappointed!

Safe travels

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SomeConstructionGuy t1_j6ouufj wrote

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HeadPen5724 t1_j6oul8v wrote

Independents are generally to the right of democrats from progressives. The majority of those votes will go the democrats, and in far greater numbers than democrats switching to progressive. We will end up with 75% Democratic representation in Montpelier. It will be 1 party rule.

Realistically I don’t see it passing, but maybe we will get to see how it all works out 🤷🏼‍♂️

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KITTYONFYRE t1_j6orqn2 wrote

> He seems very upset with the perception people has of it

it's pretty annoying coming online and seeing your nice little town get dumpstered on for exactly the same problems that any small town in rural america has, yet gets singled out as "oh no, not rut vegas!!!!!!!".

there are plenty of legitimate reasons to question Rutland, but people choose low-hanging fruit that applies to every single town in rural America instead of actually putting thought behind their words.

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KITTYONFYRE t1_j6oreh1 wrote

> In VT IRV would actually likely lead to 1 party rule. The GOP would stop being a viable party. Progressives would pick up some of the democrats, but democrats would pick up almost all of the independents/centrists AND conservative voters who no longer have a viable candidate. One party rule is even worse than 2.

No? What? This is just wrong. Why would democrats pick up people voting independent? It's the other way around: People who voted democrat, even though they supported, say, a progressive candidate instead, would now put that progressive candidate as #1 and the democrat (who they previously would have voted for) as #2. Same with any popular party: Lesser parties will, in general, get more votes now.

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of how and why ranked-choice voting works.

> We don’t have FPTP voting, so I’m not sure the relevance of that. You can’t win with a plurality (see Shumlin v Milne 2014) or any traditional runoff really.

We have FPTP voting. Plurality vs majority doesn't matter, it's still FPTP. And more importantly, I'm not aware of any cases where a plurality was reached and the person who was runner-up didn't cede the election - so we effectively have a plurality anyway. This is a distinction without a difference - it doesn't matter if it's majority or plurality on paper because it has always been plurality in practice.

> mail out balloting negates the “saves time” benefit

no it doesn't. mailing out ballots still takes a ton of labor. it's less than in-person, sure, but it's still there. you can say "mitigate" maybe, but definitely not negate.

> and it won’t disrupt the 2 party system

It won't fully disrupt it, it will help break it up and placate the spoiler effect. It will do better than what we have now.

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Corey307 t1_j6oqfk7 wrote

Except you’re not, you’re talking about building a great deal of infrastructure which will cost a fortune and not achieve much ridership. The vast majority of people have no interest in traveling by bike and the vast majority of people have no interest in doubling or tripling their daily commute just so they don’t have to drive.

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