This is why I can't buy a house in my own god damned state because rich assholes from out of state are buying everything. So many people in vermont are struggling to find apartments or houses it's unreal.

It’s not the Champlain Valley. LMFAO. I knew there would be nuggets of gold in these comments.

Most of the expense of a house is not in it's structure, sheathing, or roof. It's in the finish, fixtures, utilities, etc. Barns are just structures with sheathing and a roof. It's actually gonna be more expensive to retrofit a barn to accommodate all the other stuff than to just build something that was meant to have insulation, finished spaces, utilities, etc.

It just doesn't save any money.

Right? What ever happened to Vermonters being stoic about the weather? Everyone runs on here everytime it's not room temperature and dry out to try and grab cheap internet points from the rest of the transplants I guess. Used to be we laughed at people getting this worked up about a little weather.

Bring your walkway dirt inside

Jeezum, it's just a friendly PSA. Don't get your Carhartts in a twist.

It's not severe. It's just a cold snap.

On top of the other things people said, barns don't usually have septic, water, electricity, or insulation.

Honestly it would probably cost the same amount to retrofit a bar as it would to start with a concrete slab

Vermont is turning into what Maine on the coast has become. Impossible to afford for locals. We are becoming service personnel for the rich.

Vermont was better before Starbucks.

Oh shit better get out there with the hair dryer.

Burlington

I am not going have a full opinion for a while since it’s February. It’s certainly larger and more substantial than I was expecting. Everything is working correctly. Super 73 you’ll be waiting quite some time before that turns into a reality and they haven’t announced pricing for it either.

I know this wasn’t the intention but like. I read this as

“There’s not enough houses let’s put the poors in barns with the other animals” and I laughed

Not to mention that it is often much cheaper to build new than to retrofit or upgrade an existing structure... Then there is also the fact that the majority of barns in this state are as dilapidated as the farming industry itself...

Of the few barns that might support conversion, you would still have to deal with permitting, Act 250, getting water/wastewater/electrical utilities to the actual site, etc. etc.

At my first home I bought the barn was 30 yards from my house, I would never want strangers that close to me or my home...

Here I am running a hose in the fucking wood barn

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WHY DIDNT ANYONE TELL ME

Oh I almost forgot to dry my wood

If it’s that obvious then why’d ya post it?

Yes! Top down all the way - it’s so much faster and efficient for our stove.

Dude tell me what you think of it. Been following the meta cycle since the beginning and am tempted but unsure. I’m also watching the Super76 motorcycle as well. More established company and prob a better looking bike.

Keep driving.

Would be great, but there are problems. Zoning problems, structural problems (weight of an apartment not able to be supported with the current existing structure - need to reinforce inside) = financial hurdles to jump through. Would be cool though!

Stock up on supplies?

like work? Yeah, I'm still going LOL

The kingdom already does that without being told.