there is no housing. people snatched it all up.

Second truck in a little over a week I've seen in flames in the area, last Monday I drove past one in the rest stop right before Waterbury

the issue is housing in general. this isn't unique to vermont.

how many AirBNBs laid simply dormant for 6 months of the year before, but are now rented out just in the winter when the boomer owners go down to florida to stay warm? vs how many are actually bought just for short term rental? I'm sure I'll get a ton of anecdotal replies to this comment and no actual statistics. I don't know if these statistics actually even exist or not to be fair though.

i'm not a property owner btw

The traffic must be spectacular

I like that dude in the background who looks like he's casually leaning up against the wall with his feet crossed, checking it out 20 feet away. Dude's hardcore.

Thats a terrible place to light your truck on fire

A hay truck spontaneously caught fire in the middle of the street. It was wild! My co-workers heard the tires on the truck explode and a lot of the businesses near there got full of smoke from the fire.

but, bigger than 44s might also help you climb out of Route 7 traffic if youre there at the wrong time in on Shelburne rd.

1700sqft 1800’s farm house, not that well insulated (working on it!) 2000gal plus 3 cords of firewood

Thanks I’ll try that.

The OP is trying to get away with murder? /s

People will do anything for a parking space these days, smh.

It was both new tires and rims, we upgraded to the biggest size possible without rubbing. Tires were Falken WildPeak A/T3W in a 245/65R17; 17 inch rims (Vision Cross, but they're all pretty similar). Not sure what the offset on the rims was, but https://www.siennachat.com/ is a good resource if you decide to go with Toyota.

Car-b-que

I hope all those drivers didn't have any plans for the rest of the afternoon.

You sir made me laugh

Not to be pedantic ass but….puts on pedant ass hat

AHKTUALLY 4wd and AWD are not the same, and the fact that you maybe think they are and also claim that your Civic is always totally fine on all VT mud season roads makes me think maybe you don’t actually have the experience/expertise to weigh in on this.

I have an Acura MDX Advance and that thing muds almost as well as some people's Jeep CJs lol

I also have a friend that tried to bury his Tesla Model X and couldn't.

I think you're safe.

Nah that's just a winter camping sled (pulk): https://wintercampers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/DSCN3304-2.jpg

At least, I think. Snowmobiles have much more distinctive tracks.

Avoid that Chrysler like the plague.

IMO if you are truly experiencing mud season there’s no replacement for ground clearance. An AWD car will get stuck on an otherwise passable road if it bottoms out. A tall vehicle with FWD and decent tires will still likely make it through.

I think it’s important to know what degree of mud season you experience. Like some of the comments here indicate to me that people are like “oh yeah the half mile of dirt road I travel once a week gets kinda squishy so I know mud season!” - meanwhile there have been entire months of March where I can’t drive my 4wd truck within half a mile of my house. And trucks taller/four-wheel-drivier than mine are stuck.

I don't know a ton about minivans but I know from experience that mud season is all about clearance. The two times I've gotten stuck in mud were in an AWD Subaru that got high centered. I would look for the tallest AWD minivan they make.

Ground clearance is the important thing in mud

That's nuts! hope no one got harmed!

ah, touche. Plus anything above 44s might complicate parking at the mall

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