Recent comments in /f/vermont

thisoneisnotasbad t1_j7p73xu wrote

I didnt say if you can't afford to live here than leave. I said if you can't afford to move here than don't.

Big difference.

I grew up here. Dirt poor. It took me about 18 years to finally get a house to call a home. It sucked and took every penny I had for 12 of those years going to a building project.

Locals are not being priced out by locals. They are being priced out by people who consider affordable to be way beyond the means of someone who came up here. They are playing you my man. STR are not the enemy, the reason you can't afford a house is work from home folks with NYC income and who are moving to places like Cambridge or Fairfax.

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MYrobouros t1_j7p5pkl wrote

There's a great plan from the DHCD and the Congress for the New Urbanism. It aims to continue historical patterns in villages and towns with things like cottage courts, mid density multiuse areas, and accessory dwelling units.

VT won't be affordable without new housing, and specifically the right kind of new housing to help young new families and aging Vermonters be able to live here. I love my drafty old farmhouse but it's not the right house for most people in this state anymore and it probably never will be again.

https://www.cnu.org/vermont

A big part of our problem is with relatively recent zoning changes that require things like large minimum lots. That sounds like it preserves VT on its surface but the result is 1 house every 3 acres and no woods at all.

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Hellrazor32 t1_j7p5lnp wrote

Yeah well what about the Vermonters who were born here? Don’t we deserve to live near our families? Or should we just be expected to force our elderly parents out of their (paid off) homes and ship them to the cheap states we were forced to move to for our own convenience? What about the 6th generation Vermonters who can afford a 300k home but not a 600k home? We really should just go kick rocks?

Building homes will not “ruin” Vermont. In my lifetime, I’ve heard that solar farms, wind farms, houses, businesses would ruin the state and turn it into New Jersey. Yet somehow, Vermont is still beautiful. I’m so sick of this “tough titty” attitude. Not enough housing is tearing apart families, and it’s destructive to the culture and heritage of Vermont. Housing is a human right. Hey guess what? If you don’t like neighbors, then you should be able to afford 40 acres so you can pretend you live in 18th Century Vermont. Oh, too expensive? Well, move somewhere cheaper.

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Decweb t1_j7p4ygr wrote

As others have said, main roads after clearing should be fine. It's mostly after snow or icy rain, for a day or three depending on what the weather is like, that you need to beware.

It all comes down to physics, slippery roads are going to teach you some hard lessons if you don't anticipate the physics.

Trying to pull out of a parking lot with a slushy entrance? You may push the pedal harder to try to get out before the light turns or oncoming traffic arrives, but the wheels, without proper traction, will spin and you'll go slowly, if at all. Good tires help, common sense is still important. Traction/friction is your friend.

Similarly if it's icy, you can press the brakes, but just because the tires stop rotating doesn't mean you'll slow down or stop moving forward. You have momentum proportional to the weight of your vehicle and the speed you're traveling. Give yourself a long path to slow down. (Or, as others said, best not to be out in the first place).

A heavy car with rear wheel drive on icy roads can also be a turning hazard, you can turn the wheels but the car just continues in the same direction. Not much of a problem in this day with front/awd/4 wheel drive and lighter vehicles.

Anyway, you get the idea. But avoid the icy days to drive, and if you must drive in bad conditions (only if you must), anticipate lack of traction and plan for it.

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o08 t1_j7p45d1 wrote

My neighbor put it in the only affordable housing in my town around 20 years ago. She donated a portion of her land to the Windham/Windsor housing trust. That housing trust put in around 40-50 mixed/affordable housing units and that same trust manages the complex.

If towns were serious about housing, they would identify and keep land that is suitable for development when it comes up for tax sale and then bring in a housing trust to build and manage.

Act 250 is necessary to ensure big business provides housing for employees or donates to a housing trust when they do develop land. Also necessary so that affordable housing isn’t placed in a wetland or floodplain.

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trueg50 t1_j7p1gye wrote

Somehow airbnb is a magic scapegoat for all property and housing issues. People don't realize how many regular people use the system renting out their own property, or how much the hotels would love to squash the competition they have to deal with. It's easier to blame one company than to face the fact that Vermont will always have housing shortages due to its very conservative nature. Until towns allow actual dense housing or many environmental regulations magically "go away" nothing will change.

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thisoneisnotasbad t1_j7ozj0m wrote

Lots of people in this thread who are from out of state and now realize they can’t buy due to the shortage so they are looking to turn VT into wherever they came from by building new houses and jamming so many people in that the reasons that made them want to move here disappears.

Down vote away but stop trying to turn VT into CT or MA or NJ or NY so you can own a house here.

The STR discussions are a honeypot. A tiny amount of houses owned by more economically successful people than the ones complaining about it. You are been spoon fed an enemy that if you defeat will have near zero impact on the claimed cause and will honestly, not really impact the wallet of those with STR.

You can’t afford to buy a house here. Accept it. I can’t afford to buy a house In Hawaii or even costal Florida. I can’t afford a house in Boulder either. Maybe look to a place you can afford to live.

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