What else are they going to do? Sell.

This is a nationwide trend. Using algorithmic techniques along with basic investigations the calls are being traced back to African nations with ties to Russia. Do some googling in that direction you’ll find lots of mainstream coverage (eg not a tin foil hat conspiracy)

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You said “most of us want real jobs, not jobs waiting on rich people”. If you lose 30,000 jobs, what jobs do you think will suddenly appear?

Appreciate it 👊 Brandon’s far for me but good to know prices like this are already out there

I don't see the connection. Housing would be more attainable.

Tourism jobs don't pay livable wages anyway and soon there won't be anyone to fill them.

What do you expect these high paying jobs that suddenly flood the state when we all leave to be?

Sports encourages tribalism.

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Lol. OK. I have a job. I don't want a remote job, that sounds miserable. I'd rather live and work in my community.

Yeah pretty much. Do what you want with your money, but you obviously have an entitled attitude that assumes your actions have no consequences.

Yup our house just got over it. Two weeks of crap and I'm still dealing with weird symptoms.

Doctors office says straight up 5 day CDC guidelines are garbage.

Seeing more masks and more plastic going up again.

My husband's job even put out a survey about if the plastic will mess with sales lol.

Most of burlingtons tourism is from the rest of New England. And much of it is from people who have second homes and want to go out in Burlington. As a resident who is super entrenched in their position I think you’re missing the ramifications. Also, no one is stopping you from getting a good paying remote job. Major employers aren’t going to suddenly move campuses and jobs to Vermont because “housing is available”

I don't necessarily want to lose tourism. I'm fine with people not being able to afford a second home here. Most of the tourism in Burlington comes from Quebec. They aren't going to stop coming. If we lost the NJ/NYC/MA crowd and gained workforce housing, that would be a win for the state.

As an nonresident, you seem to be missing that VT does whatever it can to fight sprawl. That's why we have open land. Most of us want real jobs, not jobs waiting on rich people.

I just got over it for the first time and my friend’s doctor in Burlington said they are seeing highest rates ever in the waste water monitoring in Burlington.

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Also wondering where this is at?

There’s plenty of empty land in VT. Why don’t you build more instead of punishing people who enjoy spending time in the state? Tourism supplies 10% of VTs jobs, skiing isn’t going away, and outsiders bring $3B into Vermont yearly. You want to lose that?

God thats great fat

I still watch that movie

I work for a VT school. We didn’t know anything about this until our superintendent emailed at 1:55pm!

So unless there is a plan to go to war with the US military I don’t think it is a setup for a January 6th event. Domestic terrorists disable police with these robo calls, they then shoot up the power grid and then they?... do what.

Nothing they can do will change the laws in this country and at best they could prevent a transition or power for a day or two. If they already have the military on their side there is no reason to do these other shenanigans, they would just instigate a military coup.

> Which one?

Any of them, really. And yeah, I remember hearing about some in CA in the early 2010s.

The most I heard about the recent one down south (the Carolinas maybe?) was that someone tweeted something about not liking drag queen story hour around the same time as the substations were damaged. I just wondered if there was ever more of a connection than that. Shrug.

Thank you for this kindness friend

Any place that has an economy based on one industry is in bad shape. VT would do well to stop worrying about outside money and start worrying about its residents while it still has some left.

VT should be taxing second homes to the point where they are just not affordable and people are forced to sell. Way too many people here don't have one home. It's a bit greedy to have seconds while some people are still hungry.