You're not my dad.

Bomoseen has springs and shit in it that create thin spots even during cold winters...and then you have all that milfoil which causes soft spots in towards shore....and then you have pressure ridges. You kind of have to look at it, pay attention and talk to people to kind of know where everything is year to year.

For sure. On multiple occasions I've gotten myself up early to go hiking and arrived at the trail head for my dog to start acting squirrelly or an unexpected rain shower to make that one rocky section slick and dangerous. It sucks, but I'd rather pivot than put us in an unsafe situation

Bottom line no ice is safe until you check it. Ice is variable, there is no "it's safe" or "it's not". It could carry a semi truck and be completely unsafe 100 feet way. Someone falling through isn't indicative of some blanket "the ice isn't safe anyone that's out there is an idiot". Now could they have been idiots fishing on 2 inches of ice? Sure. But we don't know that. When people make assumptions about ice conditions is when people die is my point.

Or perhaps just say kindly say, hey, if you go on the ice, please don’t drive on it, where an ermegency pull string flotation device, bring safety ice picks and don’t go alone.

The first time I saw a single SpaceX satellite I thought it was cool. Now I feel more like you and others have posted about the space junk. It's like hearing a weed Wacker out in the silence of nature. Seeing a string of 50 of them in a row was SURREAL and kinda terrifying in a "is this the end?" kind of way

Hey if the ice is too thin for fishing, try cold water swimming! (Actually not joking, it's fantastic, but have a complete change of clothes and thermos of hot water to drink and pour over your hands after.)

Who cares? 🤷‍♂️

I do astrophotography, happy to show you how much sky pollution all these satellites create. I’m not anti-satellite by any means, just think there’s better ways to do it that’s going to create less long term space junk

It's satirical irony you bunch of dumb bunnies.

Oh? How many old, experienced Vermont ice skaters have fallen through the ice this year?

I am that overlap. Not all of the people ice fishing are casually disregarding safety, but no ice is safe either. Failure is always an option prepare for the worst.

The GOP want to make it mandatory to take a fishing trip to full term, no exceptions

Don’t tread on me

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brother hop off my dick i aint bernies pr manager

The air temperature has very little to do with ice safety. If some temporary warm air makes it unsafe it wasn't safe to begin with. People who go ice skating when it's 20 and don't bother to check the ice thickness are at much greater danger than an ice fisherman fishing in the 40s who spuds their way out onto the ice. Things like underwater springs, birds, pressure ridges, rocks, and flowing water are what you should be worrying about because they'll turn a foot of ice into nothing within a few steps.

We need help - Bush, search party of three!

I get SO scared for people when I see them out there! Especially with the fluctuating temps! I've never been out on real ice before, but it would have had to have been in the negatives for days on end to get me out there. I hope people stay safe!

Did you not click the posted link? Yup living life, for now...

> It weighs more than a truck, so you tell me genius.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjj88rmoJP9AhVNElkFHc6eDrMQFnoECEUQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popularmechanics.com%2Fcars%2Fhybrid-electric%2Fa26558547%2Ftesla-burnt-vermont-lake%2F&usg=AOvVaw1GLTHHIyHDmZLTj2rGvKZB

I think The Smelly Dvorak was referring to this little nugget.

https://www.vtcng.com/shelburnenews/news/local_news/tesla-burns-on-frozen-shelburne-bay/article_ecdc900c-582c-5a00-89da-9ef1385808c6.html

Yup. Wouldn't catch me dead or alive on that ice. If it's between a few fish and coming home to my family, the choice is easy.

We should measure the ice by its thickness and strength rather than by a body count or reddit sentiment.

my guess is those two men didnt frequent r/vermont