Recent comments in /f/vermont

joeydokes t1_j8l2bz0 wrote

Oh joy, a newcomer arrives in 2019 and proceeds to write a tome (on their substack) describing a place they barely understand, from an ivory tower academia burg; thinking they got a handle on what drives folk both to and from this place they've just landed in.

And the conclusion? More libertarianism! You're painful ignorance if makes it obvious that don't know rural, don't know surviving off the land, or what makes Vermont tick. You assert hippy infestation and conservation mated to stubborn agriculture resistance to change is bad blood in need of a transfusion.

The issues being faced are little different than those in other States, specially all of northern New England. Covid and 2020 changed everything; making what's bad worse. Income inequity has made things worse. Corruption's made things worse. Crappy for-profit healthcare making many 1 serious emergency away from bankruptcy, paying our dentist's kids college tuition w/our cavities for lack of good insurance...

But no, you look to Jim Douglas as someone worth quoting; that's a laugh (at your expense).

The reason people (like you?) move here is because conservation is what has kept billboards from dotting the pastoral landscape. Communalism is what gives everyone a voice; even if it gets ignored by the 'town fathers'. Vermonters are kind, but not nice. Spend a year around Enosburg or the hamlets of the mountains, then tell us what you've learned; instead of acting like you're Warren telling the people of Roxbury what their problems are. What do you know about agriculture; farming and forestry, the working landscape? What do you know about wearing many hats to pay the bills?

You favor the same 'open for business' modal that's left other places with toxic waste dumps left to clean at the taxpayer's expense?

IMO you should keep your opinions to yourself and let the Vermonters who've been here for decades and know its workings intimately hash out fixing its problems. Instead of trying to make it look like where ever TF you came from.

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GrilledSpamSteaks t1_j8l1zph wrote

The entire country is in housing crisis. Until companies (who spent billions overpaying for properties in 2019-2020) start off loading these properties at a loss for a tax dodge, the value of homes will stay high. Thanks to the Trump tax cuts, corporations aren’t looking for extensive tax dodges as simple stuff already puts them in a advantageous position.

An internet company offered every home owner around us almost 60% above market value for our homes. 3 people accepted and moved. Their acceptance raised the value of our homes even though there were not major improvements to justify those costs. Until those houses sell at a loss, or are abandoned, or legislation changes current laws, we have to wait for an 80% devaluation of market value to be reassessed.

In short, capitalism boned us and doesn’t look to be reaching around anytime soon.

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jacob22c t1_j8l0je9 wrote

Love the idea of spacex finally allowing people living in the country access to high-speed internet, but i do hate that it came to this. Where we have to rely on the petty whims of a megalomaniac billionaire for infrastructure improvements when the government should be doing it.

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Trajikbpm t1_j8ks269 wrote

This was a big topic of conversation tonight at dinner. My great grandparents owned a ton of land in Maine and my husband's great grandparents owned 70 or so apartments. All sold before we were born and the money squandered. The ones that are still alive cry about how poor they were and how hard life was. Pffffff.

Boomers can eat my whole ass!

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Corey307 t1_j8kq5be wrote

So for number one if the roads don’t get plowed us blue collar folk didn’t get to work either. I can’t walk 40 miles round-trip to and from work.

Two you’re telling people to ostracize their neighbors and members of their community for engaging in capitalism. That’s fucking crazy. Seriously how fucked in the head are you to blame blue collar people for serving white collar people?

Third we have a state Senate. There’s 30 senators and each one represents at least 20,300 people. It wouldn’t make sense to have more senators in the lowest population areas because that would be tyranny of the minority. Four I don’t take issue with, I came here for years ago and I still don’t vote on the state or local issues because I don’t understand them well enough yet.

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