Recent comments in /f/vermont

thedvlandgod OP t1_j8p39ec wrote

What I find so interesting about this: 1 in 5 Vermonters were born BEFORE the USSR launched Sputnik. A satellite the size of a beach ball, only capable of transmitting radio signals based on temperature fluctuations as it moved through low orbit.

Today I take a photo with my phone, whose charger has more power than the Apollo 11 computer, and send that photo to the 15.3 thousand people who have seen this post via a satellite internet connection. It’s incredible.

It’s incredible in its human achievement. It’s incredible in its horror. In its audacity and bravado and absurdity. The world is changing at an incredible, incredible rate, and we’re both lucky and damned to be part of its incredulous change.

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KITTYONFYRE t1_j8p2i4h wrote

> I never mentioned anything about Caledonia and that is your own singleminded idea that the development I am talking about refers to what is in your mind. There are multiple projects throughout the state that take place over many years of time.

what are you talking about then? direct quote:

> Oh yeah, he was fired for that after the 5000 ft runway was denied and he was exposed.

northeast kingdom's 5,000 ft runway went through, it was never in doubt. caledonia is the only one with a short runway that was considered to be expanded, and that's a current problem.

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escapefromburlington t1_j8p1zf7 wrote

Nationally since the Biden administration the per capita incarceration rate has dropped to around 500. Used to be the highest in the world at over 700 and now it’s only the 6th worst incarceration rate globally. I guess you can call it progress… I’m not sure about Vermont’s per capita rate rn. Last time I checked it was pretty bad when compared to other places in developed countries.

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[deleted] t1_j8p11s5 wrote

It has everything to do with it. On a basic level you don’t accept or trust trans people so we must keep them segregated. Boys with boys and girls with girls, unless they’re trans. Why is there never mention of trans boys in the boys locker room?

Lmao, come on. 90% of your comments are bullshit opinions on trans issues, but yeah I’m sure you’re one hell of an ally. You’re spending large amounts of your time to spread ignorant trash. Genocide? Yeah, having issues with the way you’re approaching this means I think you’re calling for genocide. Not quite, but you do come off as a bit of a douche ahah

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bobrossjiujitsu t1_j8p0g26 wrote

That's not what the paradox of tolerance states. What it states is that being tolerant of intolerance may lead to an intolerant society, which is not a bad point and is perhaps what you actually meant. Either way, I appreciate your effort to discuss the issue rather just insulting me.

I would argue that the nature of what is tolerated or not tolerated is of critical importance because it is the content of the intolerance that determines its moral value. To illustrate, few people would criticize me for being intolerant of a convicted pedophile sharing a public space with my children. The content of my intolerance matters.

My contention is that it is reasonable to be intolerant of allowing boys to change in a girls locker room, even if those boys insist that they really strongly feel like they are actually girls. The reason I am intolerant in these circumstances is that my concern for the group of girls exceeds my concern for the preferences of the transgender person. While you may not agree and may feel like the girls just need to tolerate feeling uncomfortable in their own locker room, what I hope is that we can have that conversation without vilifying those who disagree with us, vilifying the uncomfortable girls, or vilifying the transgender person. Because we are clearly going to be talking about this issue for a very long time.

If this viewpoint makes me intolerant, and if it is morally permissible for you to be intolerant of my intolerance, then you are in the awkward position of having to figure out how to censure/exile/execute nearly half the country. Instead, I would recommend trying to change our minds instead, and maybe we'd all benefit from that endeavor.

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Affectionate_Cod_348 t1_j8ozx91 wrote

Northfield has a history of hiring problematic police chiefs. This guy’s best attribute so far is that he hasn’t fired his gun at a local business owned by someone he had a disagreement with. (That guy was two of three chiefs ago) He hasn’t been arrested for a DUI either (prior chief), so there’s that.

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[deleted] t1_j8oyq5q wrote

> Do you understand how fucking terrible it is to be trans? But yeah people are pretending so they can reap all the benefits lmao.

This has literally nothing to do with anything I said.

For the modern history of the USA we have had male/female sports and male/female changing rooms. We even have male/female summer camps... It isn't always about sexual predation, sometimes it's just you don't want 17 year old boys and girls butt naked showering together at a public school.

Why do we have male/female sports? In order to allow women to show their athletic talent and compete safely even in the face of male genetic advantage.

It is just factually true that there is a competitive and safety based reason we have male/female sports.

In no way am I advocating hurting or causing any disadvantage to trans people. The fact that you immediately jump to that angle and try to make it seem like I'm advocating genocide just highlights the weakness of your points.

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[deleted] t1_j8oy31r wrote

Nah, I saw multiple comments by you in this thread and was curious what the hell you were on about. How many hours have you poured into being this?

It’s a bullshit argument. What exactly do you think is going on? Tons of opportunistic little boys wanting to flip their dicks out in girls locker rooms are pretending to be girls? Do you understand how fucking terrible it is to be trans? But yeah people are pretending so they can reap all the benefits lmao.

What are you protecting anyone from by pushing this ignorant garbage? It’s a complex issue for sure and part of me is glad as fuck I stayed closeted as long as I did. The way this “argument” is always framed comes from some imaginary place, there’s no basis to this shit in reality.

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