Recent comments in /f/vermont

slow-poke-rodriguez t1_j91mp9d wrote

I hunt with my dog, albeit for birds (mostly grouse) not big game or anything like that. It’s one of my dog’s greatest joys in life (maybe me too). I hunt on public land or private land with permission, even though permission is not needed if it’s not posted. She stays within 100 yards of me. I try to be as respectful as possible to others and their property. I support people upholding their traditions, doing what they love etc., however I do not appreciate the entitlement of some of these folks, it’s not everyone, heck, it’s probably a small minority but the bad apples can be the most visible and irritating to others. It makes us all look bad and legislation has been introduced in various states because of this, that calls to ban all dog hunting.

Some people are just going to be anti hunting across the board but I guess what I’m trying to convey to non-hunters is that we’re not all douche bags, but also to other dog hunters: don’t fuck it up for the rest of us.

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RoyalAntelope9948 t1_j91m4ja wrote

Apparently I'm going to be down voted too but I agree with everything in your post. It made me feel so powerless. I have watched what this country has become for probably as long as you have. I'm sorry for the generations that are watching our country burn under the non-humanity that seems to be prevalent now. I'm afraid for what we have become and where we seem to be going.

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typefourrandomwords t1_j91ly0z wrote

I’ve done a few weekend camping trips with my brother and our kids with all of the gear in the canoe on a set of wheels down the service road. We had a flat on one trip, which made it a little more difficult, but still worth the adventure. Now we will unload on the Goshen side, take a hike back up to the cars on the following day, drive around to the bottom (picking up supplies if needed) and hike back up to the falls/the lookout on the way back to the lake. Then when we pack out, it’s more downhill with the canoe.

The trail from the Goshen side is shorter than the service road and also manageable if you’re carrying a SUP.

Colchester Pond is another I believe to be motor free, with close boat access.

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Dire88 t1_j91jrw8 wrote

The state Constitution makes all land (including private) in Vermont open to public use for hunting/fishing/foraging. Unless legally posted - which is difficult to maintain as it requires registering with the town and reposting annually - then the land is open for use.

Same as everywhere else, lot of people moved in from places where "private" property means everyone stays out. And don't understand the state's requirements for posting.

Their ignorance, combined with Vermonter attitudes of "I've always done it this way", leads to confrontations. Add in that dog hunting is considered inhumane by many, and has fallen out of favor in other states, it's bound to happen.

Personally, I think dog hunting for large game needs to be done away with. But I see why people cling to it.

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Left-Link5070 t1_j91i2rn wrote

What?! Your kid was attacked by a dog? When/where? You should report that crime immediately and I hope dog and owner are held fully accountable.

Properly trained hunting dogs are trained to not do that.

Living next door to a shelter dog is statistically far more dangerous. Unleashed dogs on Mt Philo corner and scare dozens of people a week. What’s your concern with that?

Should we change a long standing Vermont tradition and law simply because of YouTube or Facebook involvement? No. Thankfully an influencers voice and vote still counts the same as everyone else here in Vermont. No more and no less.

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thisoneisnotasbad t1_j91g1x2 wrote

> I understand these towns sound a little more rural than most but it's kinda terrifying to think people are just letting their hunting dogs roam uncontrolled through communities.

VT allows dog hunting. There are laws and rules around it. If someone is letting their hunting dogs roam uncontrolled through communities their are breaking those rules.

Don’t condemn a whole group of people over a couple bad actors.

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Nanotude t1_j91eojt wrote

I've been following Gold Shaw Farm for a few years too. After the 1st video he put out there about hound hunting, it seems to me that he has been targeted by hound hunters and has had way more exposure to it than most landowners.

That said, the right to hunt and trap on open land (private or public) has been enshrined in the Vermont constitution since the beginning. The state does seem to skew policy toward hunting rights over landowner rights. From what I understand, you have to jump through numerous hoops on an annual basis to make your land officially a No Hunting zone. If you miss any of those hoops, your land is open to hunting whether you have signs up or not.

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