Recent comments in /f/vermont

General_Skin_2125 t1_ja36ka9 wrote

I don't necessarily know if it's nativism. Are there any specific laws protecting residents over out of staters?

It's the natural progression of tribalism, especially in times of stress or strain, when money is tight, and those with money (i.e. out of staters) want a slice of your pie.

(Not a VT resident, went to college in VT and longtime lurker).

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thisoneisnotasbad t1_ja36ap0 wrote

That is a question that could have been answered with about 5 minutes of research.

Brave little state at it again with those important questions that make a difference to real people.

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BillBikesInCleveland t1_ja33npd wrote

And here's what you don't understand, Rama.

I don't care if Becca was aware of what FTX was about. They are a crypto firm. Crypto is a horrible industry for the environment and crypto serves no practical purpose. One can't be both a steward of the environment and a friend of crypto. I can't think of a worse industry to owe millions of dollars of favors to, except for fossil fuels.

The fact that she owed crypto is troubling enough for me and others to want to know the truth about these deals.

Did she do anything wrong is a tough question to answer. If FTX hadn't collapsed she would have been in a very corruptible position and that's worry enough for me.

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RamaSchneider OP t1_ja32oco wrote

I didn't even imply what you seem to be claiming.

I did state that this story's line is about money corrupting our politics and not any specific elected official. I don't know the list of the political campaigns that have been caught up in this sordid affair, but according to any press reports I've read, that list is long and all across the political spectrums.

Should the Balint campaign finances be called to account? Absolutely, and as far as I know that is what is occurring - with the ready participation of Balint. I feel comfortable believing that if something untoward shows up, the Vermont press will be reporting on specifics.

But I think this story is more about the forest then the trees. We need to be aware of the influence that money has in our political system and how that system actively encourages corrupted/corruptable people to get in to elected office.

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kellogsmalone t1_ja31wo5 wrote

Good to know. I personally would love to rehab an actual farmhouse with 5-10 acres but I assume that would be a bit different than what you described. I actually want to homestead and have some livestock. This zoning sound more like these pseudo mcmansion style developments that seem rural because they're sparsely distributed given the acreage but sure look like subdivisions.

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RamaSchneider OP t1_ja2xix5 wrote

The sophistication I'm referring to is the dark money side of things ... all those bucks that show up with no direct personal accountability. Those reporting dates are common knowledge too, but they're not designed to allow folks to get around public reporting.

My point is a sophisticated process would have removed the names of FTX and individuals several organizational donations before it hit Vermont's market with, yes, perfect timing. Remember - FTX and associated people are being prosecuted for the WAY they gave, not for WHEN they gave, and that is the disclosure I'm referring to.

As far as money in politics goes? Back to the post's introductory point. This is a systemic problem that can be fixed.

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Glad-Palpitation292 t1_ja2x6cs wrote

What, five and ten acre zoning? It's a type of zoning district that only allows one house on each 5 or 10 acre parcel, respectively. If you want country roads lined with million dollar "rustic modern" post and beam houses (you know, the ones built to look like old farmhouses connected to a barn, so they put red siding on the attached three car garage) and that are owned by people from other states, it's the best way to do it. By setting the acreage requirements so high, it eliminates entry level houses, because the lots themselves go for $150,000 before you've broken ground for a foundation.

It's also really inefficient from a tax perspective. First, because the houses are fewer and further between, there is a smaller tax base, even though individual houses are more valuable. Second, even while 5 and 10 acre zoned houses are highly dispersed, their owners still need municipal services, which take more effort to provide and are therefore more expensive.

There's also the Current Use program to discuss, which is its own huge problem for affordability. But you asked about zoning.

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thisoneisnotasbad t1_ja2vz3d wrote

I usually don’t engage you because you don’t seem interested in actual discussion but this time I would like to point out you are very mistaken.

>The only reason we know about the FTX money is because those guys were very unsophisticated regards avoiding disclosure

They knew the exact dates of the VT election cycle and the donations were made to actively prevent reporting until after the primary. In fact, according to 7 days this timing is a common tactic to avoid having the source of the money disclosed in a time period that impacts the outcomes.

https://vtdigger.org/2022/08/25/a-crypto-moguls-hidden-hand-in-vermonts-congressional-race-stunned-observers-its-a-common-trick/

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kellogsmalone t1_ja2ux4p wrote

It depends on how you shape the whole because if you create a trapezoid with the longer side on top it will heave upward but if you create a trapezoid with the longest side on the bottom then frost will actually push it down and compact it more.

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kellogsmalone t1_ja2umjw wrote

Even without R1 zoning, rules can be put in place about designs and make them incorporate into the existing character of a town. A three or four story in town apartment building put on somewhere that might have been a decrepit factory or turning on old lumber mill on the water into condos is a lot smarter than just putting up hundreds of track homes.

A lot of this is going to come down to your local townships some pretty sure that stuff still needs to be approved by your housing departments and that would be determined at the county and the local level. There's still avenues to preserve and protect communities in the general vibe that makes Vermont so attractive.

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