Recent comments in /f/vermont

MortimerProctor t1_jach08z wrote

~6000 students were eligible to attend schools outside of their small, rural town using state appropriations in FY 2020-2021.

It was about half and half in terms of student enrollment. Half went to public schools and half went to private schools (roughly) and it cost the state approximately $50 million dollars to send kids to private schools (religious and non-sectarian).

Out of the 3000 students who chose to attend private schools, only 12 students chose to attend religious schools as of FY 20-21. This expense cost taxpayers $150,000 dollars. This is not a burden to the state. The State Senate is making a mountain out of an ant hill with this proposed legislation, and in fact are becoming discriminatory in the process. They are selecting institutions that are well off financially (SJA in particular).

Furthermore, the recent decision of Carson v. Makin is clear. The state has to pay for this if they want to continue the historic model of private independent schools in some of Vermont’s towns. You cannot pick and choose your favorite schools.

Legislators need to stop avoiding this obligation to the people of this state. They need to stop wasting their time and our money trying to create loopholes to stop/prolong this process. Instead, the legislation this session and in future sessions should focus on empowering parents in the decision making process of school selection.

S.66 is unconstitutional.

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Real-Pierre-Delecto2 t1_jacgj1s wrote

Sadly I think they have an out. They will argue that the districts could choose an independent or religious school as one of the three they will be allowed to send kids to. That way they can say they are not discriminating specifically.

Not to mention all the kids that would be harmed in my district from this there is a more insidious issue here and it's one of basic respect for the courts and our legal system. No matter what side you are on here the SCOTUS ruled on this case and the state is trying to circumvent that ruling with this legislation which to me seems wrong. Sorry but this reminds me of the election deniers in a way. Take the loss and move on.

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Optimized_Orangutan t1_jacfwc8 wrote

One side is people arguing that their religion should control education, the other side arguing that the government should and I don't trust either of them to have the best interest of the student at heart. The Vermont Independent schools provide a vastly superior education, not tied to the edicts of a higher power with dubious motives for the same cost as sending the kids to some rural shit hole public school. (For far less when you factor in you will have to build that rural shithole public school first). As long as they are following the law, leave them alone. They are spending that money better than the public schools are for better results for Vermont children.

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papercranium t1_jacfipq wrote

I get really good primary care, but only because I qualify for a special program through my employer. It's one of the reasons I won't leave, even though I've had offers with better pay.

I had to go to DHMC to check on a heart murmur (everything's fine), and by the time they could get me in for an ECG, my insurance's approval for the procedure had expired. My PCP chewed them a new one and got it covered, but seriously?

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HappilyhiketheHump t1_jaceu7f wrote

Including “Traditional” independent schools is really trying to thread the needle.

Unless subsidies to ALL private schools go away, the lawsuit will again be filed for discrimination and the state will lose. The court ruling was clear. States don’t have to provide subsidies to private schools, but if they do, they can’t discriminate.

To allow the traditional 4 academies to exist in this scheme, they need to become public school entities. If they continue as private entities, they should not receive public funds.

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KristoforC t1_jacehwx wrote

I started on fidium in fall. I haven't had any issues and totally happy with the speeds. I work from home everyday doing data. No problems at all. Internet hasn't even dropped once

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QuicheSmash t1_jacdtdu wrote

Good.

As someone who went to a Catholic school growing up in NY, their practices are based on a business model. Among other issues, like religious indoctrination (I was chastised and punished for refusing to participate in religious ceremonies), schools that operate outside the educational laws of the state should not receive public funds. Full stop. I understand some communities have been served by private schools for decades and those schools are ingrained in the fabric of those communities, but if the people in those areas want to volunteer to support those schools, that's their choice. It shouldn't be the state's burden, especially if the practices of those schools support bigotry like the Mid Vermont Christian School.

Schools and public services should not be based on a private business model. This bill is sensible and paves the way for communities that have lacked a public school to gain access to a public school system that relies on legislated standards.

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xxxDog_Fucker_69xxx t1_jacdo8j wrote

The issue when you conflate health care with business. The UVM buyouts we’re disastrous and accomplished nothing but make a practical monopoly for 150 miles.

Admins are great at business, but when it comes to healthcare my supervisors have absolutely no fucking idea what my coworkers and I even do.

They asked me what I do when actively responding to emergency situations (I carry a pager for work) they then audited my time sheet when they saw I was clocked in for 14 hours straight. Had to get a note from medical staff saying how long we were in the room.

Even more shocking is the admins have known were chronically short staffed in many fields of surgery and chose to continue paying significantly under market rate and continue to badger staff not to take raises or even ask for them. Ultimately this created a mass exodus and many became Travelers. Some teams are over 89% travelers and have had less than desirable outcomes when it comes to healthcare and general day to day operations.

The disconnect is so extreme I could talk about it for hours. I’m so glad UVM is buckling under the weight of its own financial incompetence. And to every travel nurse that comes in and makes $50k more than full time staff, I salute you and hope you take every penny from this morally bankrupt hospital.

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QuicheSmash t1_jacd2uw wrote

That's all well and good, but schools like the VT Christian Academy want public money while refusing to abide by VT state anti-discrimination laws. If a school cannot agree to abide by the law, I don't want my tax dollars going to support their bigotry. Put the money toward creating a public school in the area that will support all students.

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