So, should we make alcohol illegal again. It is DEFINITELY a hard drug. One of the two that the withdrawals will kill you. This is an all or nothing thing, because I can argue with you about what is or isn't a hard drug.

Education, mental health and making a person a part of the community are not easy. Give your unhoused neighbors a reason to care.

Escapism may not be a valid excuse, but escapism will be there either way. We are humans and we seek to escape. It's not like drugs are a new concept, hard or soft.

Sounds like exactly what I’m looking for.

It's really about the place you visit, it's not just all "Vermont" there are nooks and crannies specific to each locale. It takes years to get into a place, I know you're just looking to check it out, I think you should generally see how you vibe with the place, do some local stuff, drive to a few other things that interest you, the drives are always beautiful in and of themselves. Give some ideas of what you're into and I bet you'll get a lot of local suggestions.

It's going to be verrrry different from Texas. And a hell of a lot better.

Jesus has returned! Did you bring the pork chops?

What a lovely picture!

Feel free to reach out with other questions or more specifics! Hope you two have a good trip :)

Thank you, that’s very helpful :)

I'm mainly from the Chittenden area, so I've got lots from there. Do you have certain foods or vibes you like for restaurants?

I like: Waterworks, Barrio Bakery, Pizza 44, Folinos (Also pizza), Honey Road, Bistro de Margot, The Meltdown (Artisan grilled cheese in Montpelier).

I realized I could keep going, but might be information overload.

Edit: Also Pho Hong. That's very popular.

Yes, the Dreemee is a must do. Yates is in Monkton, just south of Hinesburg (technically Monkton Ridge)

Truly beautiful! Thank you for sharing.

Oh yes, this is quality information.

Beautiful! From the same spot (from 1900-1910?)

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Lol yes, I have had this debate in my head, I am fairly sold on Vermont, my husband is a little concerned about living in a smaller state (we’re from Texas). So I told him about muddy season and asked if he’d prefer to see it at its worst or best and he opted for “best.”

I’m even tacking on a train ride to NYC (he’s never been) to show him the cities that are driving distance to sweeten the deal.

Any favorite restaurants you’d recommend?

Edit: thanks for the extra info!

Honestly, hiking and farmers markets are the only Vermont-y activities I do in the fall. Even sticking to that will give you a decent sense of what people do here.

Edit:

I do have one place you have to go, though! Yates Family Orchard in Hinesburg (?) sells something called the Dreemee, which is a maple cremee (what the rest of the country knows as soft-serve) on top of a super fresh cider donut. You can upgrade to the Supremee by adding apple pie filling and caramel sauce. It's mind-blowing.

Excellent idea, thank you :)

Don’t visit in the fall if you’re thinking of a move. It’ll be like a first date - lovely and on its best behavior. Instead, visit in March or April when it’s outrageously muddy and maybe your car gets stuck somewhere. Bonus if you can visit during one of the last blizzards of the winter when people are perilously close to losing their minds because the winter will just not end.

Or, um, I mean, just visit in the fall and adventure around and see what you find. That’s often the best way.

Depends where and when you're visiting.

For food and drinks: Breweries are obviously a big thing and everywhere. Many good restaurants in Burlington area, especially around Church St. The Winooski Circle is a short drive from there, which is an up and coming downtown area. Waterworks is the main restaurant there, plus it has a great atmosphere.

Live music is also fairly abundant, depending what you're into. You're in luck if jam bands. Higherground is the main venue. But shows often happen at bars like Nectars, Monkey House, or even Shelburne Museum.

Swimming in different falls and gorges or floating down rivers are great in the summer.

Montreal is a short drive away depending where you live.

Vermont has also been great about developing great small town vibes. I've enjoyed visiting the town centers of; Montpelier, Waterbury, Stowe, St. Albans (recently), Shelburne, and Vergennes.

British Columbia decriminalized all drugs recently. I think it's too early to see if it makes any difference. Their theory is that if someone is Od'ing and everyone has a small amount of drugs people won't call for help because they're afraid they will go to jail. This allows users to to call for help without thinking they are going to get in trouble. I'm pretty sure the cops won't even take their drugs there.

Next up we need to have free drug testing for users so they know what they are taking is what they think they are taking. Most deaths are from bad drugs.

Another supporter, Dave Silberman, the high bailiff of Addison County, told Marijuana Moment that while the proposal faces “serious” obstacles to becoming law this session, support in the state for ending the criminal drug war nevertheless continues to grow.

The HIGH bailiff supports this. Made me giggle.

I would try to connect with locals in person so you can get an idea of if you would jiive with the community!

Dude you need a hug, go watch Mrs. Doubtfire and forget you hate trans people because your party told you too

Honestly same, but wouldn't recommend doing them solo.

Really? This seems like a less dignified topic than VT Edition usually covers. I'd probably listen, but it kind of makes me cringe. There are tons of podcasts for this kind of thing.

But whatever.