I’ve been saying this for over 30 years. No one listens to logic, my friend.

Then look no further than New Hampshire. It’s all the Idaho you want with New England tax rates! They even like to crap on your first amendment rights and ban books. Good luck. Please don’t come to Vermont and leave Washington as soon as possible because my friends who love it there don’t want you there.

I ended up doing a lot of coke at the ho hum hotel with a girl I met at a bar

I saw what this did to Oregon, and I gotta say I’m not very excited. The psychedelics specifically shouldn’t be illegal, in my opinion, but its not like they are hard to get anyway. I dunno, man.

They're high.

Good luck finding dating stories in Vermont that aren't about college kids. Dating here ends at about 25.

I’m the ignorant one? Lol

No, you’re right. To the folks who stalemated legal cannabis this is actually way worse and they will work twice as hard to stalemate twice as long.

Keep in mind that if you're near the northern part of the state (Burlington) you are a quick drive to Montreal. I love NYC, but Montreal being so close is a huge bonus.

Under cut the legal market, get them a clean supply this will lower the overdose rate. This will lower crime rates by removing funding for organized crime.

Then you have patients using medication that can then be helped to ween off or manage their addiction. Then they are no longer criminals and get the economic and mental health support to rejoin society.

This has been tried with success in places like Vancouver CA, or in Portugal. The basic idea is treating people like they are sick and need help, instead of just criminal addicts, gets better results.

It seems obvious that nothing attempted in VT or America in my lifetime has worked, at all, even a little. Time to rethink the whole situation.

So how is the government distributing heroin going to help addicts?

That's awesome. Do you sell your work?

No I’m on that shit called reality where I keep seeing people I grew up with destroyed by addiction. The drug war failed, and our neurological understanding of addiction has increased. We are not ever going to just arrest this problem away.

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Explain yourself. How is it ignorant? You should look into how successful prohibition has been historically.

Weed is literally a psychedelic in high doses.

https://www.psypost.org/2021/08/study-suggests-cannabis-can-induce-a-psychedelic-oceanic-experience-61656

Not to mention, legalizing substances will allow them to be regulated and studied for therapeutic effects. Right now, a large amount of overdoses in VT are attributed to fentanyl laced drugs.

https://www.vermontpublic.org/vpr-news/2022-04-12/vermont-health-officials-confront-record-number-of-opioid-overdose-deaths

criminal charges aren’t working so great, are they? Prison in the US isn’t meant to rehabilitate . Once you’re in the system you’re finished. You can’t really get work, people will judge you…all because you are addicted to a taboo substance because you were never given help… even though people are walking around with severe caffeine and social media addictions and no one says a word to them about it. People who want or depend on drugs are going to get them no matter what. Might as well make sure it’s clean and provide people with addiction resources and mental health help funded through taxing the drugs. Seems pretty simple to me.

Government regulating and distributing heroin? Are you on heroin?

Haha..touché..I ain’t buying that crap..

That's already happened. When was the last time you went furniture shopping?

Geez I've been singing that mantra for 25 years! Emphasize health minimize criminality. Cell scheduled drugs in shops similar to medicinal cannabis. Impose once a week therapy session for every order

Make Vermont whole. Make red opium a legal substitute for heroin, smoke it. Make cocoa leaf and alternative to cocaine, chew it. Make injection sites safe and manageable.

Cut the black market out as much as possible. You could even pair it with physician assisted suicide for those so depressed they can't go on.

Make little Vermont the forward-looking state that others can emulate.

Let's not act like they're even remotely the same. Comments like this are ignorant.

The old Canada playbook. Keep then just fucked up enough to not care.

Before you hoist yourself up on your own petard, I've probably used psycheldelics more than you and have almost certainly seen more adverse reactions to them then you have. This opinion does not come from a place of hate or ignorance, and this isn't something to take lightly. Strong psychedelics can help rebuild, but they can also destroy.

Who does? Vermonters? We literally live outside lol it’s our entire thing

How beautiful! I know that spot❤️

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Oh that’s so neat! Thanks for sharing!

There is a serious shortage of healthcare practitioners in this state largely because doctors and nurses don’t get paid much here. This is something you should factor in before moving, jobs pay for shit here. If you and your partner don’t have any serious medical conditions you’ll probably be fine but this is not a good state to move to if you have serious health problems and intend to receive treatment in state.