Snowflake was perfect

Charming comes at a cost!

The COL was basically why I left. I realized that, as a first year teacher, I couldn’t afford to rent a place of my own. I’m an older teacher—career transition—and at 52, the whole “live with housemates” is less attractive than when I was in my 20s.

Great place to vacation though.

Florida is great. Completely off topic, but great.

And if you think the houses they build in Vermont now, in 24 days aren’t the same stuff they build in Florida… they built an entire 20 house neighborhood a few miles from me in 3 months. For sale, 900k. Welcome to Vermont. Cha Ching.

Certainly I am in the upper percentages, but the average house in chittenden county is 570 right now. There are way more expensive houses all over this place.

I’m not playing pauper. The whole thread is about how expensive it is to retire here. And I am just explaining why it’s right. This place is really expensive. As a guy who makes good money, no way I stay and watch my retirement get ripped to shreds.

2037, my house is paid for, my last kid graduates high school and I retire. Then I’m going back to sunny Florida with the rest of the retirees.

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Dude $12k a year at 2.1% property tax rate is at least a $570k house. Conservatively. Ignoring your SALT deductions and whatnot. Just straightforward arithmetic there from your two comments. And that’s assessed value, which is often 30% less than the market value of a property. Your property is probably worth over $700k in actuality.

That’s not a mansion, but it’s not an average house either. That’s a very nice house. You’re doing very well for yourself. Don’t play the pauper, it’s gross. You’re in the top 10%.

Also, Florida is a shithole. The rule of law doesn’t exist there anymore. I’d unironically rather move to Mexico. It’s cheaper and much nicer. Don’t come at me about how you got a house with the same square footage for $300k in Florida. It’s Florida. The land should be worthless. The houses are all builder grade disposable garbage. Just look at all the insurance shenanigans going on there. You should thank whatever god you believe in every day that you got out before the bubble pops and Florida property values fall lower than Detroit.

I think it’s meant to be Smugglers Notch (Mt Mansfield), with Morse in the foreground and Madonna in the back.

Spoken like someone who has had everything handed to them and can’t understand why the “poors” are always complaining. Fuck the fuck off. You and your pitter patter.

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She clears 6 figures aswell.

I'll go ahead and disagree. It all depends on your situation. An ecredited child care expert can basically name there price now. I have a friend who nannys and schools for a family of 3 kids and everything she brings home is straight profit because her car and living expenses are provided.

Where there is a will there is a way. Most people would rather resign themselves to mediocrity than be entrepreneurial. It takes hard work, but all the best rewards follow hard work.

Methodikal designed this.

Will go back to old fashion work force housing. Forcing us locals to live in company owned houses to serve the wealthy. Musk is doing it in Texas it’s only a matter of time before someone finds this as the “solution” to the housing crisis up here.

We are thinking magic for the top one, although a pretty old map. Front could be stratton?

You got it!

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Easy not all of us are terrible. South Jersey is great besides the fact the Aqua Teen Hunger Force lives next door and a rancher with no property goes for $560,000.

I moved from VT to NJ (ended up here after retiring from USAF)

It’s crazy expensive tho. Sad that VT is almost as bad for folks not making 6 figures.

The back peak is definitely Mansfield you can see the nose, chin and Adam’s apple. The trails on it seem reminiscent of the gondola-side of stowe. Logically that would make the front peak spruce peak but I’m not sure that’s the case I think it’s something else maybe MRG single chair or something

Thanks! Good to know. Smuggs trail map is 1000% easier to read than Bolton (when you zoom in. Not fuzzy)!

The front one looks like a stylized Sratton Mountain.

Morse mountain at smuggs is all greens. They have Morse only tickets that are like 59 dollars.

As someone who has had two grandparents grow old in this state. And now is having parents grow old in this state. Its a lot of driving to Dartmouth, boston and nyc.

"Tax happy vermont"

"Bernie sanders home"

Written in 2016

Hmmm this article may have some biases