My god, you liberals truly hate when statistics are brought into play, don’t you? Because the instant they’re used, your entire argument becomes dismantled. Please, use some logic and reasoning, don’t be so controlled by your emotions.

Not technically a board game but mancala

why this and not affordable housing though…. the BMAC already has a suitable spot

You don’t seem to understand how sap is collected or made or what constitutes a food that presents a botulism danger.

Maple syrup is usually collected daily and is only collected at times of the year where temperatures are generally pretty low. Therefore decomposition isn’t really going to happen in this scenario. The main contaminant is going to be a very small quantity of feces. After the sap is collected it’s filtered and then boiled for a loooong time. Botulism toxin is rendered inert at 185° and the bacteria is self dies at 212° after ten minutes. The spores are going to survive the process but it’s my understanding that the high sugar content of the syrup does something to the spore that stops it from reproducing or producing the toxin.

Therefore not a danger. Gross, but not a danger.

In 2022, Burlington had 5 homicides in one year, it was the highest number of killings in 62 years. But of course, I’m sure it was just a coincidence.

Have you played Ares Expedition? We're really liking that as an update to TM.

You’re making an irrelevant comparison, “whistles past graveyard full of millions”, you’re basically saying, “ who cares people die anyways”.

What Burlington did was purely reactionary with no forethought or oversight put into their measure. Whether you support “defunding” or not pushing a measure through that hastily that has such a large impact on public health, safety or any large program is going to be a bad idea.

I personally think this is way more nuanced than your one paragraph post implies. Also, if you're inserting your opinion in the post while asking a question ("No surprise at all. Thank God it was reversed"), you probably aren't looking for answers or a conversation, you're most likely looking for a fight.

But I'll bite. Many things factors can contribute to a rising murder rate. Less police force can absolutely do that, like you say. But also the declining condition for the average American (such as rising costs and inflation), less social support, and the police throwing a fit at defunding to name a few.

I don't necessarily want the police defunded. But I do think they still need better and long training like a degree, more sensitivity training, and less military grade equipment to use against their communities.

defunding the police is just as stupid as defunding the fire department. that’s like taking a child’s parents away because a few parents around the country were bad people. There’s hundreds of millions of people in the United States… some are going to be idiots/assholes. Some of those people are going to be cops therefore some cops will be assholes/idiots, but that doesn’t mean we abolish the position completely. Policing doesn’t stem from slavery, police positions have predated American slavery by hundreds and hundreds of years so that’s also not an argument. There should be either more funding/training or stricter financial transparency on spending with us the tax payers. Education on civil rights should be the main focus at the end of the day. Not pulling over people for going 5 over trying to collect as much revenue as possible (then they are just meter maids with bigger engines). They pull over so many people because all of those stops are recorded.. so if they ever move departments they can see how “valuable” of an asset each officer is. I believe this leads to over policing instead of “protecting and serving” considering I see cops speeding all over and texting more than anyone else

> after defunding the police

Lol.

> in decades

Yes, nothing else confounding happened in the last few years, not at all. whistles past the graveyard full of millions It certainly wasn't a national trend, thus establishing that there's no correlation with "defunding the police".

(Which, BTW, basically did not happen anywhere.)

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These comments make me never want to consume maple syrup ever again

I’m a black lesbian libertarian. You could not be further from the truth tough guy! I’m sorry the orange man has you upset still, get over it.

What town?

We’ve only got the original version, but I’ve been eyeing the others. How do you like Summer Pavilion?

If I'm "chief shit stirrer" in this sub then you don't have:

a) shit;

b) a pot to stir it in; and

c) a spoon to stir with even if you had a pot which you don't!

In other words - you're imagination is running away with what you want to see happening as opposed to what IS happening.

But, as I've done before and as I don't do my public life cloaked in anonymity, let's talk it out in a non-anonymous, civil, personally in public manner.

Ooooo, mods - "we don't have a job to do, just a title to show off and beat our breasts with"

You just defined bigotry, only you don't realize it right now.

"I can't define who I am unless I define who somebody else is by their place of birth." - That's what is reads like to me.

PS. Wanna talk this out? I don't hide behind anonymity in my public sphere. I'll sit down with you in public and civilly discuss this issue of birth placed bigotry. In public with full disclosure of identities.

So that's a no?

I know very little, if nothing about the subject, so please forgive my ignorance. Your comment regarding methadone being the same as heroin has me wondering . Does methadone eliminate the chance of OD?

Also methadone is used to eventually get people drug free correct? If so, why do we need to make heroin legal? If methadone is already a legal substance, why not hand out methadone to people on a regular basis, without restriction?

I think there is, or perhaps was, a methadone clinic in Burlington correct? Is that program restrictive? Meaning only a small number of people are allowed to participate at a time? Or perhaps the treatment, has to physically be administered to participants by a professional? There by forcing participants to have to travel daily (by appointment) to the clinic? Is clinic open 24/7? Are emergency “appointments “ available?

Depending on the answers to the questions above, one could quickly see how getting treatment, could become problematic for some. Especially, those who are trying very hard to live their lives as “normally”as possible. I have heard of repeated stories of people being addicted to heroin, and even those closest to them have no idea. These people lead professional lives, and no one would ever guess that they are suffering from addiction.

If most of the above is true, then sadly it would be logical for people seek out heroin on the street, rather than methadone from a clinic, as it may be, just easier to get.

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Vermont's low population is what helps keep it Vermont

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