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Vermont's population is virtually unchanged from 2020. April 1 2020 population count was 643,085. In July 2022 it was 647,064. From July 2021 to July 2022, it increased by fewer than 100.

edit: Necessary_Cat_4801 blocked me so I am adding an edit here for those of you who are interested in actually solving problems instead of burying your heads in the sand by blaming out of staters for decades of neoliberal policy failure.

>I'm going to believe my eyes and the digger (and every other local media outlet) over people who seem to have a vested interest in pretending that increased demand during and after the pandemic hasn't affected housing prices.

I can't tell if this person thinks the US Census has some weird conflict of interest, or if it's me. Either way, a pretty bizarre thing to say. My own interest is just one of a card-carrying socialist and activist that cares about myself, my friends, and my neighbors. If you're worried I'm like a landlord or something, I think my post history will clear that up pretty quick lol. /u/twombls will vouch for me on that one. But you don't have to believe me, go read the data for yourself: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/VT

Also, to be clear, I'm not saying no out of state people moved here. Some out of state people are moving to Vermont, because people do move here sometimes, but it is not some great migration. There were several thousand people who moved here at the beginning of the pandemic, and you can see that in the census. But like I said, the population of Vermont increased by fewer than 100 people from 2021 to 2022. Even that initial migration is absolutely tiny, though compared to other years it is quite big, relatively, it still amounted to less than 1% of our population. These are absolutely tiny growth numbers.

Also, who said the pandemic hasn't affected housing prices? It absolutely did, but it didn't do it through some fox news style caravan of out of staters coming to take your jobhouse. It's incredible to me how many people on this sub insist on blaming people from places like Massachusetts for decades of policy failure at the state and national level. It is the most small-minded, myopic xenophobia I have ever seen in my life, made even dumber by how trivially disprovable it is with freely available census data. Absolutely fucking pathetic. At least Fox News caravan weirdos have the excuse that Mexico is actually a different country with a pretty different culture whose people speak a different language. Meanwhile, someone here sees a few Texas license plates and starts using the phrase "covid colonists." Give me a fucking break.

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At will employment in Vermont might make that a bit more difficult.

Or form a union and bargain for one.

I just want to point out that you could say this same thing about the 5 day week, the 40 hour week, sick days, safety standards, holidays, etc. Each of these concessions was extracted by a labor movement, not given freely by employers, or even the result of market forces. If we want it, we need to take it together. Until we do, we'll keep working longer hours for wages that continue to stagnate. United we bargain; divided we beg.

This is the same art place that's currently across the street? That place is total fucking dog shit and the food at the bistro is pretty good

We haven't played yet. The rules are a step up complication wise and they look like it takes up a bit more space to play. I'm watching a playthrough on YouTube to get ready.

Of course you’re not.

I think it would be a great idea if you knew what “defunding” the police actually means. But you don’t. You just rally around whatever your hooded friends tell you to do.

Also it would be swell if they did their jobs.

lol no. tell that to my two friends who died from it.

Oh no no no, I meant truly affordable housing. Like super basic apartments. Not by WWHT

Even our lord and savior, Dr. Faucci said it himself.

Getting the sickness itself. Shown to be more effective than masks, and vaccinations. The best immunity you can get.

So which type of preventable death is okay for you and which one is not

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I’m sure you can guess my stance on masks and vaccines. (Not a fan)

it would have been nice if it had happened and they hired the other people they were supposed to. also it was great that the police chief intentionally fucked up patrols. so yeah. it would have been great.

Opinion on vaccines and masks?

They want $6K for the u boxes.

That is so cool about your friend! We love Tiny Towns and will definitely look at Wormholes and Fit to Print!!

Please no. Windham & Windsor Housing Trust already owns most of the multi family buildings in this town. Not that I’m suggesting more overpriced luxury apartments, but “affordable housing” has been co-opted into an absolute racket on a local level.

Unfortunately people can still have a fatal overdose on methadone though it is a lot less common to happen accidentally vs fentanyl overdosing.

I can't speak to the clinic in Burlington but clinics are usually highly restrictive especially in the beginning of treatment. You have to show up at a certain time to receive your dose everyday. If you miss it you can start to be in withdrawal. Thankfully another drug available is called Suboxone and that is something that people take on their own from home. It isn't always as effective as methadone but it's the same idea of maintenance therapy. The goal with maintenance therapy is not always to get the person drug free as in off the medication. If it is effective for them many will take it for years and decades. The unfortunate problem is these drugs don't work for everyone. If you were to just provide the pure version of the drug they already use it would have similar outcomes except a much broader benefit to society at large.

No, it's would be like if the FDA added an ingredient to food at the SAME TIME that a deadly disease was going around. Was it the extra ingredient or the deadly disease!? I guess we'll never know.

Was it defending the police (which never actually happened, sorry) or was it poverty and desperation that led to the increase in crime!? I guess we'll never know.

That should be in the past tense. "before 2020, Vermont's low population is what kept it Vermont."