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Yeah, it was a really strange editorial choice.

Yeahhh the heartstring pulling from airbnb owners is always weird. Its proven that you can pass a law that bans invesors from renting out entire neighborhoods, yet still lets airbnbs function as "intended". Burlington did so. As it turns out though. People just renting out a spare room in their house is in the minority.

Also that survey may have bias. As someone just renting out an airbnb room to live here. Is probably more likely to respond to a survey. Than some property investor.

My experience with UVMMC billing is that every time you pay a bill, they send another. It's as if their billing department thinks, "Aha! We got a live one here". But if you wait a long time, they are more likely to accept a payment and just go away.

At least, that has worked for me.

Excellent response, thank you!

So here’s the problem with that 300, what does that mean? Is it entire homes? Private rooms? Total combined listings? Are these owner occupied or dedicated Airbnb listings? Why is this important? I’ll use my old listings as an example.

I created 4 separate listings for my house. 1 listing was to rent the entire home, and usually I’d go stay with my parents. The other 3 were private room rentals. Now the way I did it I don’t think it is common, but if there were other hosts doing it, that can potentially skew the numbers. Also in my house case, me stopping doesn’t necessarily result in increase of housing as I’m not renting out the rooms to long term tenants.

I also think owner occupied examples such as my own are a net gain for the city. There isn’t enough hotel rooms , and a ton of people are priced out regardless. Having cheaper options means more people can visit, equals more money. I collected rooms and meals tax and paid the city, the money I earned stays here versus the Hilton or other large chains. The people will also spend the money at local businesses.

I also for two years rented out a studio and put it on Airbnb. In that case I agree it shouldn’t be allowed. That is a text book reason that contributes in a negative way to the housing shortage.

So I believe Airbnb can be a good thing, but also agree it should be regulated in an intelligent way.

I will also add, I considered buying properties for Airbnb and I couldn’t make the numbers work in a way I thought was worth it. And this was back in 2015, when prices were high but not stupidly high. If anyone purchased around here for the sole reason to Airbnb, I bet they aren’t making as much of a profit as they thought they would.

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Being gay in most of Idaho and Montana would be less than ideal and being gay in parts of Idaho especially would be a real bad idea.

We don't really have gayborhoods here, no town or city is big enough for that.

TL;DR: there is literally no available housing here unless you have a shit ton of cash and even then it's iffy. Renting... Forget it.

Jfc, so they've never driven by and looked at the apartment building? The playground equipment is right there

OMG dude grow up. Being a complete tankie is a bad look.

So shooting suicidal or mentally unwell people isn’t working anymore? Weird

Good for you, I wussed out on my review - and I feel bad about not being honest and giving them the benefit of the doubt. If we didn't have AWD and good snow tires we would have gotten stuck in there driveway.

That is so completely insane. I had an Airbnb that was dirty once and had no sheets or working AC in the summer. and when I wrote to them they said “it’s not our job to provide you sheets”

The last air b n b we rented during a snow storm we literally had to shovel their fucking driveway. Edit: I should say it was an apartment attached to their house where they lived.

So your argument against “homes bought as short term rentals hurt the community” is “it makes rich people even richer”? Gotta say that’s not a very compelling argument.

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They still advertise it on the NVU website so.. fuck em.

holy shit the $1200/night one is booked out for two months. The greed of these people is absurd

> Very slippery slope when you start saying normal folks should just give up whatever 'excess' they have to those in need. Sounds a bit like a certain failed ideology we've seen in the last century...

Christianity is a little older than the last century.

None taken and that’s a really good question. I think that Johnson had a niche that made it successful

Ok, that’s what I thought. I read that post too haha

My other question would be-- what should we charge people who make $200k/year and want to live in apartments downtown? Rent burdening that $200k household at the 30% level would $5,000/mo. Those folks could easily pay $2,500.

A bit of a glossing over of the founding principles of our democracy I have to say... but on the moral side, should 2nd home ownership be banned? I'm not saying problems don't exist, I just think you're knee-jerking a reaction to them. Very slippery slope when you start saying normal folks should just give up whatever 'excess' they have to those in need. Sounds a bit like a certain failed ideology we've seen in the last century...

The real problem in VT is neither, it's the work from home crowd that showed up during covid that is really ruining Vermont.