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Not fake friendly, just something along the lines of basic respect and human decency would suffice

Wonderful! A caring person who spends most weekends volunteering in the community is someone who disappoints Vermonters!

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Maybe if this is such a common complaint, there is a larger issue at play. But no it’s all the out of towners fault. And btw lots of communities come together in times of distress, very commonplace. Look at the country immediately after 9/11

The people are a disappointment. I thought a place that prides itself and identifies itself as a social haven would treat other humans more…humanely. Obv asking a bit too much from r/Vermont lol

> the more expensive homes do have the function of allowing people to move out of their starter homes into something that better fits their needs.

another way to look at this is that unlike the working class, if upper-income people want to buy a house, they are going to buy a house. so if there is no new-build luxury housing available, they're instead going to purchase homes that otherwise would have gone to lower-market buyers. this has happened in a lot of desirable cities that have underbuilt for decades; houses and apartments that at first look would seem to be part of the market for the working class and first-time buyers have instead been bid up on and purchased by upper-class buyers because there is so little higher-end housing available. so while luxury housing might not be what we want to see built, allowing those units to go up takes a lot of pressure off of the lower end of the market

If everywhere you go you smell cowshit, check your own shoes.

Please. I mean the best way to do it would be to raise property tax on non residences so high that it becomes unprofitable

Whats funny is under most antiairbnb regulation. The "small guy renting out a room" is largely unaffected. They usually still allow renting out rooms or entire residinces that count as a primary residence.

It’s mainly out of staters that came here during the pandemic. That’s why housing is so unreasonable high right now and you can’t purchase a tiny house for personal use without it being considered an ADU to make it legal

I mean a lot of rental housing in those resort areas that would be previously rented out houses that resort employees lived in. You are right that ski condos dont really count as housing though. They tend to be horrific quality substandard buildings. And a lot of the time you aren't even allowed to live in them full time because that would become apparent.

If there were lots of high, paying jobs, housing was inexpensive and the weather delightful there would be hordes of people here. The lack of these three factors has kept things largely the way they are with people here willing to make the financial and lifestyle sacrifices that living here requires.

I’m a recent transplant, and I’m honestly relieved to leave the “neighborly” phoniness from whence I came. That said, this sounds like a you problem.

Our closest neighbor has a shooting range in his backyard. We sometimes drink beer and shoot skeet. I make bread for our other neighbor, and he shares from his garden and effectively has become my Vermont dad. Don’t move anywhere expecting to be welcomed with open arms based on some fantasy you have of a place. You’ll be welcomed when you demonstrate some grace and understanding of the space you’re moving to.

>The constitution has the takings clause, which says the government can't take people's stuff without paying them for it.

And what part of the constitution would that be?

A few years now? You posted a year ago asking if you can get around without winter tires on a Honda Accord.

I always think the vacation home argument is a bit of a fallacy. Many of those homes are out in the sticks and terribly inconvenient for anyone trying to work a job. Additionally, many of those homes are not really equipped to be a residence or even to be used year round.

The average AirBnB, on the other hand, would probably be a great housing unit, excepting the condos that are specifically meant to service the ski resorts.

Ngl the entitlement of flatlanders will never cease to amaze me.

The fact there's well under a million people in this whole state is why it doesn't look like NJ

It would 100% change my perspective 🤣

God willing.

Is there some place to sign up for the maple syrup orgy? 😆

Anecdotal experiences vary.

I’ve lived in 7 states and Vermont has been the friendliest, by FAR. Lived down south 3 years (Florida), worst racism I ever experienced was there.

Sorry you don’t have the same feeling but your experience is not necessarily true for all. You are stereotyping.

> Also how many "wfh yuppies" actually moved here.

Just on my street in southern VT? 8 households. At least 5 of those (the only ones I know for sure) paid cash for their houses. 4 bought sight-unseen. They haven't left, unfortunately. Meanwhile my working-class friends can't even come close to affording to buy a house, and are living in dumpy rentals, in one case without working heat.