Recent comments in /f/vermont

Jackandbeansprout OP t1_je6wv38 wrote

Lol because the lady working at the desk was unfamiliar with the SC sales tax bill introduced in 2017. Literally went today with the SC DMV printout of the “thing I found on the internet” since the DMV told me to do that and it was accepted. I brought the exact same information as yesterday but got a new person who was actually doing their job and helping. ✌🏻

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cpujockey t1_je6w00b wrote

And I will cite the prohibition which started my dad's family in Vermont due to our grand father being caught smuggling liquor from canada and being jailed state side.

I am not saying that laws wont help - but outright banning of firearms is going to piss off more people and cause a lot more problems than regulation. Most responsible gun owners (myself included) are for common sense regulation, psyche evals and all that shit. But outright banning firearms is a slippery slope that will reveal the same fallacies as alcohol prohibition: criminals will most definitely find a way.

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Human802 t1_je6vj75 wrote

Yes that is definitely true and no one is claiming that a law will fix everything.

When I think about the effectiveness of a law I think about how many falcons and eagles I see these days. Their populations were decimated by DDT pollution, but when the government banned its use they didn’t end pollution, but they did reduce harm to the ecosystem.

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Kvltadelic t1_je6uq66 wrote

I don’t know how you could take a clear eyed view of the world and come to the conclusion that we need more people. Global population has skyrocketed in the past few generations, im pretty sure we will be ok.

Look- I am very supportive of social programs that help children and families. And I fully accept that I am paying for program which I won’t directly reap the benefits of, because that’s just part of being in a society that has empathy and takes care of those who need it.

But I just can’t get behind the idea that you should be discounted from that social and financial obligation BECAUSE you are having kids and creating the need for it.

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cpujockey t1_je6m3kq wrote

> Do they just not want to acknowledge this is the current reality?

The current reality is no matter what laws are in place, there's always some asshole with a lathe and the ability to do their own machining to curtail laws against owning firearms. Additionally, criminals care not what the laws tell them, they'll pay top dollar for the things they want.

Also, I aint giving up my guns because of a bunch of assholes can't be bothered to be decent. I like hunting, I like gun culture, and I like having guns. There are many responsible gun owners out there and they heavily outweigh the terrible fucks that use guns to commit mass murders.

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Human802 t1_je6i3hs wrote

The down vote ratio is really interesting.

Do people disagree with this statement?

Do they just not want to acknowledge this is the current reality?

We have to start where we are if we hope to make meaningful reforms. We can’t just regulate guns like cars, or chemical’s because we don’t have a right to access those. Even reinstating the assault weapons ban might not be possible with the current SCOTUS balance.

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FyuckerFjord t1_je6h6zt wrote

Your reading comprehension is fucked. The article literally stated someone reported it, not that a monitoring agency found it.

And your worldview is superfucked. Just because something is legal or illegal (or whatever the hell 'legs begal' is lol) doesn't make it right.

Stop snitching.

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