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Mokatines t1_j7k76lh wrote

>It's obvious that American culture fetishizes age as if it were a function of wisdom, even though we often tease that same age group for being technologically/socially inept and culturally backwards. Bizarre.

Nah ... the respective parties push who they want to push, so the American people are usually given the choice of two geriatrics. God forbid they vote 3rd party. Which they wont because the main party candidates will point to Ross Periot.

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asdaaaaaaaa t1_j7k5l42 wrote

> It's almost like a single ~5 year window is all that's generally been allowed to hold office since the late 1980s.

It's almost like politics heavily operate as an isolated group of individuals who all work to keep the status quo for each other and keep others out. Good luck getting someone who's doesn't fit one of two molds even halfway to getting elected.

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NotTroy t1_j7jyrln wrote

I've got good news or bad news for you, depending on how you feel about it. Gen X won't be the new Boomers, Millennials will be. Gen X is actually a lower population than Boomers or Millennials. Now that all Millennials are of age to vote and even the youngest of them are approaching their 30's, and with Boomers increasingly dying off, Millennials will progressively make up the plurality of the voting population with each election cycle (they're also a larger cohort than Gen Z).

The other half of this news is that Millennials and Gen Z are seeming to defy the conventional wisdom that people become more conservative with age. Studies are showing that Millennials and Gen Z are generally getting more progressive as they age.

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Gary_Vigoda t1_j7jvufa wrote

https://youtu.be/WGIUKLPMc3k?t=844

Bush's Dad and their buddies in the military industrial complex hijacked the US in the 80s/90s by teaming up with the major media conglomerates to take over independent media, wipe out the journalism industry, and keep young people from protesting their endless wars.

The reason Americans got FOX News is because these guys deregulated the media, allowing it to be monopolized which is why Disney, Warner, Viacom, etc own everything now.

https://youtu.be/ozxzNjRqCiE

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bunkSauce t1_j7jvl00 wrote

TBF, baby boomers is anyone born in an 18 year period starting in 1946. So, if presidents are often in the age range of 45-70, which is pretty much the bell curve of presidential age distribution... 22/30 seems .... expected. I mean, you jave to be 35 to be president, and the presidents who were younger than 45 were extreme outliers.

In 1992, the first baby boomer is turning 46. In 2035, the last baby boomer will turn 71.

In 2000, the age range of boomers was everyone between 36 and 54 years old.

In 2004, the age range of boomers was everyone between 40 and 58 years old.

In 2008, the age range of boomers was everyone between 44 and 62 years old.

In 2012, the age range of boomers was everyone between 48 and 66 years old.

In 20q6, the age range of boomers i everyone between 52 and 70 years old.

We just live in the time where baby boomers are laregly comprised of ages rangin from 45 to 75. When thay age range is the typical presidential age range, it should be no surprise.

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societymike t1_j7jtuj7 wrote

With that said, I was sitting in our office at work in Tokyo on March 11th 2011 with 3 coworkers just bs'ing about our day when the fish in the aquarium we were facing just started going nuts, swimming around fast, hitting the sides and jumping, and one managed to jump out and we put him back in, but they wouldn't calm down. We were all wondering WTF are they doing, they are normally calm and slow all day, but within a minute or so, the water started splashing like someone was moving the aquarium, (but it's heavy and sitting on a concrete wall) and we realized it was a little earthquake. Ok, nbd, we just had a couple trimmers last night, the fish probably felt it faster than us.. but that's when it started getting stronger and stronger and didn't stop, we evacuated, and it just kept going for a few more minutes, things breaking, lights on the flight line looking like windshield wipers, garage doors falling, phones going crazy. Later, we got back inside and only 1 fish was still in the tank sadly.

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Anticode t1_j7jt4hc wrote

> As people get older they tend to start to vote more conservative

This is not necessarily true (anymore?). Studies are starting to find that 1) People actually become more liberal as they age; and/or 2) Views remain relatively stable throughout life.

[1] https://www.livescience.com/2360-busting-myth-people-turn-liberal-age.html

>If people really become more liberal as they age, why does common wisdom hold the opposite to be true?

>People might find an average 60-year-old to be more conservative than an average 30-year-old, Danigelis said, but beware of extrapolating a trend. The older person, for example, might have started off even more conservative than he or she is now.

[2] https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/706889

>Consistent with previous research but contrary to folk wisdom, our results indicate that political attitudes are remarkably stable over the long term. In contrast to previous research, however, we also find support for folk wisdom: on those occasions when political attitudes do shift across the life span, liberals are more likely to become conservatives than conservatives are to become liberals, suggesting that folk wisdom has some empirical basis even as it overstates the degree of change.

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All-in-all, it's pretty hard to track these sort of things since there's a ton of factors at play. Studies that occurred near the emergence of Trump onto the sociopolitical stage may have had their self-identification (rather than their beliefs) pushed left, now given an example of what right really looks like, for instance. It's hard to say.

In any case, I suspect that it's more generational than anything - specifically as a result of socio-environmental pressures. It's a bit much to get into this late at night, but I hypothesize that "conservativism" is a behavioral (mal)adaptation in the same way ADHD is a maladaptation to the flicker-frame-flashy-light modern world.

In the case of conservative behaviors, the symptoms emerge primarily in the amygdala, the part of the brain that controls for anger/disgust. If ADHD emerges to better handle the fast paced technological world (and subsequently results in failures to focus on more traditionally "slow" activities), then conservativism emerges in response to fear/chaos which subsequently results in failures to empathize with outgroups. You can think of it like a survival mechanism that switches on in response to war/conflict historically (and still responds to the illusion of danger).

Studies find that liberals and conservatives can be detected by brain scans alone and that's the part that's more heavily active in conservatives. It's why their responses to the world are so often based in fear or aggression (often both simultaneously).

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Re: Brain scans, etc. -- https://news.osu.edu/brain-scans-remarkably-good-at-predicting-political-ideology/

http://www.psypost.org/2017/09/inducing-anger-increases-economic-conservatism-study-finds-49580

https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/10/20/hot-button-words-trigger-conservatives-and-liberals-differently/

http://www.psypost.org/2017/09/analytic-thinking-undermines-religious-belief-intelligence-undermines-social-conservatism-study-suggests-49655

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