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darkendvoid t1_ixmn98p wrote

It's been a long time since I've read up on DMCA but isn't there an exemption clause about media that's never been distributed in the US or is no longer available for purchase on any medium?

I thought I remember that's how the old fan sub groups stayed out of legal trouble until localized copies were made available for purchase.

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MattsAwesomeStuff t1_ixm5xfh wrote

> This is an eloquent take on the fourth test of fair use under US Copyright law, namely "Effect of the use on the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work." Under this economic interpretation Disney's Song of the South ought to be available, and it is. Disney has refused to re-release this film and it remains under copyright until 2041.

Indeed, and that interpretation has controversy.

It's not that the copyright is invalid, but, with the goal of maintaining public access to creative works, it's not hard to make a case that you have not harmed the market for the good, if they intend not to sell it.

A more peculiar case is, remember in the 90s when Disney would stagger the release of their movies on VHS? If you didn't buy it, it might not be available for another 5 years or whatnot. How's copyright supposed to handle that?

The same way copyright handles everything: Whoever spends the most on lawyers wins :p

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burywmore t1_ixm5gsp wrote

So I'm at a garage sale, looking through the piles of DVDs there, and I come across Dogma. It's right there, the movie Harvey Weinstein has blocked!! I haven't seen it for years, and I know Kevin Smith has talked about losing access to this film and how it's distribution rights are messed up. It's just sitting there, in a pile of DVDs!! It's 4 bucks!!!!!! I grab it, eagerly purchase it, laughing inside on how I was getting a DVD worth at least 30$? Dare I say 40$? Could this thing be worth 100$? I made my purchase, opened eBay on my phone, and BAMN. My copy of Dogma, used, was 5.50$. plus shipping.

Eh. I like the movie. So it's still a steal, right?

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MattsAwesomeStuff t1_ixm4d8y wrote

> Author's life + 20 years would be acceptable in my opinion. That would ensure that the author's offspring are adults and can take care of themselves.

But that's not the purpose of copyrights.

The purpose is to encourage the creation of creative works for society.

You cannot encourage new creative works from a corpse.

You have to think "At what point does the lack of a copyright future, prevent this person from creating it in the first place?"

And the answer is probably 5-10 years. You've milked it all but dry after 5-10 years.

How much money does a movie make 5-10 years after it's published? A trickle. Not enough for a studio to say "Well if it's only 5 years, we're not making the movie in the first place."

Musicians wouldn't retire or stop making albums (or good albums) so readily if they can't rely on evergreen sales of stuff they did 20, 30, 40 years ago.

Etc.

The purpose isn't "Your children should keep earning money from this."

Once upon a time there were no copyrights at all. You created something because you wanted to create it. People still made stuff.

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Isopbc t1_ixlymy5 wrote

This was reposted because the last post - which was the same link as 3 months ago - did not have the entire movie. The final couple of minutes are just gone, for no apparent reason. Someone shouldn’t have to go into the comments to find a good link.

It’s also squished from its normal aspect ratio.

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ramilehti t1_ixlq5pn wrote

The author's life + 75 years is an absurdly long time period. It is solely used by corporations to hoard culture. To milk every last cent out of them.

Author's life + 20 years would be acceptable in my opinion. That would ensure that the author's offspring are adults and can take care of themselves. If the copyright is owned by a corporation then 20 years.

But I agree the corporations that own most of the culture there is would never allow this. So it must be done against their will.

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