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ntbananas t1_j6jwqnl wrote

I don't really disagree with what you wrote. To clarify, I was referring to the PLO from the time around the Oslo Accords. While far, far from perfect, that showed they were at least willing to make some sort of compromise. Better and more rational than Hamas et al.

That said, the modern PA has made some compromises with Israel. Not in terms of a lasting peace plan or anything major, but they do generally (outside of particularly large flare-ups like this month) cooperate with Israel on day-to-day matters like minor civil things, taxation, and even limited security cooperation

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DarkWangster t1_j6jwo0n wrote

Who exactly is going to hit Iran? The West isn't right about to start a war with Iran. And as an ally of Russia it makes sense that they are aiding them in this war. Ukraine doesn't have the resources to really pick a fight with Iran right now much like Russia can't pick a fight directly with the countries aiding Ukraine.

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grapehelium t1_j6jvwze wrote

I am not sure the PA/PLO is able to make any compromises. None of their leaders can accept a deal that gives them any less than arafat rejected.

In addition the Palestinians have consistently refused numerous offers of a state. As far as I can tell, they Palestinians have never compromised on any of their demands.

I expect they will get a state eventually, but it will be so long until they agree, it will be a fragment of what they could have had.

And then there is the other issue, that they have been unwilling to agree to the Israeli requirement that any agreement be the end of all claims. i.e The Palestinians cannot come back 10 years after a signed agreement and say they also want A,B,C. This is a major problem for them, as many Palestinians see an agreement with Israel as just a first step in reclaiming all of Palestine. As they regularly say - From the river (i.e. Jordan River) to the sea (i.e. mediterranean sea) Palestine will be free. i.e. no more Israel.

(not to mention that Hamas and the PA can't agree on very much, and that Even if Israel were willing to meet all the demands of the PA, Abbas isn't really a legitimate leader, being in the 19th year of his 4 year presidential term....)

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[deleted] t1_j6jvm5s wrote

>The Palestinian Authority is against the plan, threatening any Palestinian who takes advantage of Ramon Airport. Their stated reason? Because they insist they should have their own airports.

So Israel wants to build an airport that acts as a security checkpoint to monitor Palestinian's travel and you wonder why Palestinians are opposed to it? Seriously?

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[deleted] t1_j6juyjw wrote

It's important to ask why people in Gaza hate Israel. The hate doesn't come out of nowhere. Disproportionate retaliatory bombing by Israel only creates more terrorists. If Israel treated the people in Gaza as human beings and provided social programs and support instead of treating them as prisoners they would receive a different response.

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ntbananas t1_j6juqus wrote

The only counterpoints I can think of in terms of old world (i.e., excluding the Americas since those are predominantly multi-ethnic, immigrant-based societies) successful truly multiethnic states are Switzerland and Belgium. Maybe India as well, though they seem to be sliding into chaos as well these days. There are probably some in Africa as well, though I have to admit I'm not particularly well versed in demographic trends there.

Nonetheless, none of the successful versions are anything close to a theoretical one state solution

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