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autotldr t1_j9e0opn wrote

Reply to Russia ‘mapping’ critical energy infrastructure, say Dutch intelligence agencies by TerrySharpHY

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 56%. (I'm a bot)

> Russia is "Covertly mapping" critical infrastructure in the North Sea, including gas pipelines and wind farms, in preparation for potential acts of sabotage, according to a report by Dutch intelligence agencies.

> The joint report by the Dutch intelligence services AIVD and MIVD warns that "Vital marine infrastructure" could be vulnerable to sabotage and that Russia is undertaking "Activities that indicate espionage and acts to prepare for disruption and sabotage."

> On Wednesday, NATO announced the creation of a new "Critical undersea infrastructure coordination cell" at its Brussels headquarters to ensure militaries and civilian infrastructure operators can work more closely to protect vital infrastructure.

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Mysterious_Horror_67 t1_j9e00fa wrote

Reply to World to face wars over food and water without climate action, EU green deal chief says by YoanB

I don’t think not having enough water is going to be a problem much longer.

Once glaciers melt, that will lower the salinization point of the ocean, therefore leading to higher evaporation rate leading to more moisture over land. Deserts will turn into grasslands. Mountains will turn into rain Forrest. Etc.

Yes, the sea level will likely rise, but the real threat is floods in higher elevations on land. Rivers rising. Lakes growing. Etc. Not sure how quickly this will happen, but I would imagine rather quickly if the very large glacier in Antarctica the size of Florida breaks off into the ocean.

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CannabisJibbitz t1_j9dw2nz wrote

Reply to World to face wars over food and water without climate action, EU green deal chief says by YoanB

Im all for action against climate change, but how the fuck do they expect people to take this seriously when I cant even access the article with ad block on. Seems to me ads and profits from them are more important than getting this critical message out to anyone who clicks the page. The moment you do that youre going to lose people immediately and they aren't going to be well informed. Whole system is just fucked.

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ApocalypseSpokesman t1_j9dtcqi wrote

Reply to World to face wars over food and water without climate action, EU green deal chief says by YoanB

The problem is that you don't only need to convince people of the reality of climate change. You have to persuade them then to act against their own immediate interest and change the way they live. You have to convince the majority of humans to willingly decrease their quality of life, and not for a short period, but forever.

It is, in other words impossible.

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user_dan t1_j9ds8kh wrote

Reply to comment by elshankar in World to face wars over food and water without climate action, EU green deal chief says by YoanB

The solution in the 2017 IPCC report was stop putting CO2 in the atmosphere, CO2 capture and refreeze the poles (throwing up particles to deflect sunlight). CO2 capture alone is not enough.

The reason to continue moving to renewable is that they are cheaper and less resource intensive. Lots of logistics involved in fossil fuel discovery extraction, refining, transport, among other things.

Even if we started today, we have to deal with destabilized climate. More disasters. Etc. Eventually, we will have refugee crisis. A proposal is to start building cities now (or soonish) in the north to make the process easier.

Not sure we are dealing with a doomsday this century, but we will be dealing with a mess from wilder and wilder weather.

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