Artanthos
Artanthos t1_ivl01w8 wrote
Reply to comment by mhornberger in The Collapse vs. the Conclusion: two scenarios for the 21st century by camdoodlebop
A partial collapse leading to a far smaller population is also a possibility.
A dystopian hell for the majority while a much smaller minority lives in unparalleled wealth.
Only the Utopian society survives, as the dystopian societies collapse and die off. Perhaps quickly due to famine and climate change. Perhaps over a couple of generations as they are provided basic food and shelter with anti-fertility mixed into the food as a condition.
There are many possible shades of grey, each with their own moral arguments and their own sets of winners and losers.
Artanthos t1_ivgkve9 wrote
Reply to comment by Tencreed in Humanoid robots could generate $154 billion in revenue over next 15 years, Goldman Sachs reports by Gari_305
It matters little if it is Musk or someone else.
The technology is progressing.
Artanthos t1_ivgkpui wrote
Reply to comment by NuclearFoodie in Humanoid robots could generate $154 billion in revenue over next 15 years, Goldman Sachs reports by Gari_305
https://www.bankrate.com/insurance/homeowners-insurance/home-ownership-statistics/#stats
The US home ownership rate is increasing, not decreasing.
Artanthos t1_ivgkeu4 wrote
Reply to comment by Neither-Cup564 in Humanoid robots could generate $154 billion in revenue over next 15 years, Goldman Sachs reports by Gari_305
Mostly each other, in a much smaller market with much less competition for resources.
It’s not like they will need laborers for anything beyond status symbols.
Artanthos t1_ivehar7 wrote
Reply to comment by carpeson in Examining 100,000 crime-related posts from 14,000 Facebook pages maintained by U.S. law enforcement agencies between 2010 and 2019, researchers found that Facebook users are exposed to posts that overrepresent Black suspects by 25% relative to local arrest rates by giuliomagnifico
If those neighborhoods happen to have a higher crime rate, then you would absolutely want to focus more police activity there.
Artanthos t1_iveer58 wrote
Reply to comment by ReasonablyBadass in Nick Bostrom on the ethics of Digital Minds: "With recent advances in AI... it is remarkable how neglected this issue still is" by Smoke-away
Which will be dismissed as algorithmically generated and not proof of sentience.
Artanthos t1_ivee32z wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Becoming increasingly pessimistic about LEV + curing aging by Phoenix5869
- If 3rd world countries collapse, the availability of cheap labor increases. To the extent that society allows immigrants.
- Automation is already reducing reliance on cheap labor. This is especially true in agriculture and food services.
If anything, the wealthy will soon reach a point where they no longer need laborers. At least not at anything resembling today’s volume.
Artanthos t1_ivc9c2o wrote
Reply to comment by DyingShell in Becoming increasingly pessimistic about LEV + curing aging by Phoenix5869
Fascism as a response to climate driven immigration seems much more likely than a complete collapse.
Desalination plants are already capable of solving water shortages in the American West, just not at a price people are currently willing to pay.
Vertical Farming and cultured meats are pretty much climate independent. Again, not at a price most people are currently willing to pay.
It’s going to be the 3rd world countries that face collapse.
Artanthos t1_iv1yzfj wrote
Reply to comment by CaseyTS in Apis Cor may be America's most advanced 3D printing construction company, yet it is shunned by traditional capital markets; 8 years after being founded, it still relies on crowdfunding websites. by lughnasadh
We don’t have unregulated capitalism outside of the shadow economy.
Pretty much every country in the world is some form of mixed economy with capitalism as one of its components.
Artanthos t1_iv1cyfe wrote
Reply to comment by CaseyTS in Apis Cor may be America's most advanced 3D printing construction company, yet it is shunned by traditional capital markets; 8 years after being founded, it still relies on crowdfunding websites. by lughnasadh
Your list and definitions can be found here.
Artanthos t1_iv0xh0c wrote
Reply to comment by cutekitty1029 in ‘Carbon timebomb’: climate crisis threatens to destroy Congo peatlands by sector3011
Any species will expand to the destruction of its environment without natural controls.
Humans are no exception.
Artanthos t1_iv0munv wrote
Reply to comment by CaseyTS in Apis Cor may be America's most advanced 3D printing construction company, yet it is shunned by traditional capital markets; 8 years after being founded, it still relies on crowdfunding websites. by lughnasadh
So, name a better existing economic system.
Artanthos t1_iv06f09 wrote
Reply to comment by CaseyTS in Apis Cor may be America's most advanced 3D printing construction company, yet it is shunned by traditional capital markets; 8 years after being founded, it still relies on crowdfunding websites. by lughnasadh
Capitalism is the worst system in the world.
Except for all the economic systems.
Artanthos t1_iuyk3jx wrote
Reply to comment by schrod in Researchers fed microalgae on leftover coffee grounds to produce high-quality biodiesel | It could decrease reliance on palm oil to produce biofuel. by chrisdh79
You are unlikely to have both a diesel vehicle and an EV, and an EV is the greener of the two.
Artanthos t1_iuy2fwb wrote
Reply to comment by Dwarfdeaths in Apis Cor may be America's most advanced 3D printing construction company, yet it is shunned by traditional capital markets; 8 years after being founded, it still relies on crowdfunding websites. by lughnasadh
Land, and housing, ownership is the single greatest means by which the middle class accumulates generational wealth.
By removing ownership, it is the middle class that gets held down. Not the wealthy.
Artanthos t1_iuxi350 wrote
Reply to comment by schrod in Researchers fed microalgae on leftover coffee grounds to produce high-quality biodiesel | It could decrease reliance on palm oil to produce biofuel. by chrisdh79
At that point, why not solar panels and EVs?
Artanthos t1_iuwz7bv wrote
Reply to comment by Rfksemperfi in Google’s ‘Democratic AI’ Is Better at Redistributing Wealth Than America by Mynameis__--__
It presupposes that those who have are already giving up some of their resources for redistribution.
A condition that is not likely to be true.
Artanthos t1_iuwomqg wrote
Reply to comment by helliun in Scientists Create Glow In The Dark Plants That Could Replace Streetlights In The Future by sopadebombillas
Lining the walkway to my house.
I end up having to replace my solar lights every couple of years.
Artanthos t1_iuwoadw wrote
Reply to comment by Tuny in Researchers fed microalgae on leftover coffee grounds to produce high-quality biodiesel | It could decrease reliance on palm oil to produce biofuel. by chrisdh79
Collection and consolidation to a processing facility in sufficient quantities to be meaningful could be problematic.
Artanthos t1_iusq9px wrote
Reply to comment by imnos in Meta's newest AI determines proper protein folds 60 times faster by Dr_Singularity
Yes, that is the comparison being made.
Artanthos t1_iusq4u1 wrote
Reply to comment by ninjasaid13 in Meta's newest AI determines proper protein folds 60 times faster by Dr_Singularity
Two sides of the same coin as far as Meta is concerned.
Artanthos t1_iusflyq wrote
Reply to comment by ChurchOfTheHolyGays in Scientists Increasingly Can’t Explain How AI Works - AI researchers are warning developers to focus more on how and why a system produces certain results than the fact that the system can accurately and rapidly produce them. by Kujo17
Skeptics: how can we create consciousness, we don’t even understand it.
Realist: AI is already moving past our ability to understand. It will soon create more things even further beyond our understanding.
Artanthos t1_iuk926y wrote
Reply to comment by ledow in LPT: If you can, Don't apply for a job that is complaining about "severe employee shortages" or the like. There's a reason they can't retain employees, and you don't want to have to find out what that reason is. by Froggy_hop
This pretty much describes me.
Never gone more than a few days unemployed since I was 16.
Some of those jobs were pretty shitty, but even the shitty jobs appreciated someone that showed up ready to work.
McDonalds? I had guaranteed hours and paid vacations six months after I started. Same working dish tank at another restaurant.
In the end, I found a great job with great people and good compensation and excellent work/ life balance.
Artanthos t1_iujdrot wrote
Reply to comment by NecroticPustule in Human burial grounds and bullets from Spanish guns uncovered at site of last Mayan stronghold in Guatemala by GullyShotta
The ability to kill does not make a society advanced.
The Aztecs where an an advanced society, but their areas of advancement were not all military.
But apparently the people on Reddit feel that that only thing that defines civilization is the ability to kill.
By that definition, Rome was less civilized than the Germanic tribes that overthrew them.
Artanthos t1_ivmdvtd wrote
Reply to comment by mhornberger in The Collapse vs. the Conclusion: two scenarios for the 21st century by camdoodlebop
In a world where only the wealthy have survived and most labor is automated, a lot of the issues you point out simply would not exist.
I say most and not all because there are certain jobs the very wealthy are unlikely to want automated even if possible.
Nannies would be one of those jobs. Along with personal chefs, certain highly creative jobs, and areas that they simply don’t feel comfortable giving machines decision making power.