Interesting article on how Citizen creates a culture of fear: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/08/it-creates-a-culture-of-fear-how-crime-tracking-apps-incite-unnecessary-panic/

That app is garbage. When I had it and lived at 13th and Chestnut, I would see unconfirmed reports of shots fired right outside pretty frequently. Not once were shots fired lol

Ubers aren’t safe because of one road rage incident? Please.

“According to state police, a 20-year-old woman from Philadelphia was in the rear passenger side of a Lyft, a white Hyundai Sonata, that was traveling eastbound on the Schuylkill Expressway (I-76) near the I-676 merge just after midnight Saturday.

At that time, police say a black Nissan Altima attempted to merge in an "unsafe manner" onto the Vine Street Expressway.

"The operator of the Nissan then engaged in a road rage incident," state police say.”

“According to state police, a 20-year-old woman from Philadelphia was in the rear passenger side of a Lyft, a white Hyundai Sonata, that was traveling eastbound on the Schuylkill Expressway (I-76) near the I-676 merge just after midnight Saturday.

At that time, police say a black Nissan Altima attempted to merge in an "unsafe manner" onto the Vine Street Expressway.

"The operator of the Nissan then engaged in a road rage incident," state police say.”

Tragic af - but this doesn’t say that speed was a factor, she didn’t cross at an intersection, and the driver stayed on the scene. Unfortunate for everyone involved :(

Regarding a grocery store tenant speeding things up, they're certainly taking their time on the development with an Aldi at 22nd and Washington. I can't wait until it's done.

We didn’t see any of that, it was fine.

I took my brother and dad on the El when they visited this summer when we went to Fishtown - specifically for the views (and convenience). They thought it was awesome.

So all this happened and you didn’t call, and they didn’t respond at any point? I’m seriously not attempting to be a jerk at all, this just doesn’t make sense if the area was a “warzone” for an hour. I know they are bad about showing up to calls but an hour of sporadic gunfire anywhere in the city would prompt them showing up, especially if there are victims, which is incredibly likely given that amount of activity. I know if it were my street - I’d call until they showed. Maybe and hopefully it was mostly fireworks.

No one called the cops during an hour of gunfire? If they had, wouldn’t the casings have been recovered?

Are you familiar with this organization? I was not, but from my initial research I don’t think it’s bad: https://outofthecloset.org, https://www.aidshealth.org

Thrift stores can be good retail additions, look at Buffalo Exchange and 2nd Street on Chestnut. I have no idea if the $3mill they paid for this location is good or not since I’m not sure what it was listed for, but I don’t see how free healthcare is bad when the other institutions in the city are not (to my knowledge). It’s not like it’s a safe injection site.

To clarify, I promise I’m not blindly endorsing - just don’t see what’s so bad since they are buying the place.

Ideally, I agree too. That’s what I love about my current neighborhood, it’s a great combination of folks from all walks of life.

I wonder if/when it will expand more into Poplar, though there’s a ton of public housing in that area holding it back.

I hate to interject with reality here, but CC’s population is higher now than it was pre-pandemic. A record number of residential construction permits were approved last year. Some companies are moving to CC/expanding their footprint there. https://billypenn.com/2022/12/12/philadelphia-growth-remote-work-pedestrians-millennials-center-city/

How does this indicate white flight? The city has some pretty obvious issues, but the growth of Center City and some other neighborhoods is equally obvious for anyone living in the area.

If an area gets more desirable, the cost of living will go up. If an area is bad, the cost of living will go down due to less demand. Which would you rather see for Philly?

What are the downsides besides potentially increasing the cost of living in philly?

Respectfully, this isn’t the case: https://centercityphila.org/research-reports/center-city-philadelphia-retail-november-2022

I was renting it out so I’m not sure about the sales side!

I don’t know how quickly it will happen, but I do think Philly’s ascendance will continue. While showing my condo in November/December, at least 7 or 8 different couples all moving from NYC toured it. When voting, I saw/heard a few families at my polling spot that were new to the area. The vast majority of my friends love the city and don’t plan to leave. Also, I don’t know how the burgeoning recession will impact this, but there’s literally a record amount of constructing going on.. and I think everyone has noticed all the new restaurants opening. Lastly, there are other positive indicators such as 70+% of condos in the Laurel selling before it’s opened, unemployment lower than pre-pandemic, and some new employers coming to the city.

If it was gunfire, I guess there were just no victims? But, I just meant that it’s good in this regard. Hell, there were multiple shootings in Times Square last year with random victims and I still consider it safe. I also consider Center City quite safe, regardless of a handful of incidents.