D_Ethan_Bones

D_Ethan_Bones t1_jdwoefy wrote

Everybody dismisses the idea of free product. Big brands already hand out free tshirts when it costs them full price to produce, if the production cost were leveled to the ground then companies will be throwing smartphones at you just to see you carry their logo around.

The big crunch of today is housing, because there isn't enough of it, because our pyramid scheme overlords do not make maximum profits if the rest of us have sufficient supplies. The thinking machine will boost supply long before it abolishes human work.

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jdw18o8 wrote

People who found companies get thrown out of them by hollow suits that run them into the ground.

My first full time job bounced my pay and blocked my unemployment, what happened before that was they stripped the company of virtually all revenue to collect their golden parachutes, what happened before that was they dismissed the man who built the company as a lemonade stand with tools generations ago.

AI, come quickly and come with fire.

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jdu5u3q wrote

I'm more worried about people jumping the gun - politicians saying "the time is now" when it's still not yet and then the voting majority backs them. Governments spend themselves into unmanageable debt, service sector becomes disabled, prices spiral out of control for the lunch burger an auto worker (or whatever else) needs then the auto (or whatever else) prices spike up as a result. Massive debt and slower production could hamper society's ability to move to its next level.

If a moment of need arises then people will see it. If the boomers are still here when the next industrial revolution happens then maybe we'll finally have the technology to make them realize it's not the mid 20th century anymore.

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jdu53qu wrote

I'm expecting life to have a free mode and a VIP mode like modern internet games.

People already distribute free product for the sake of distributing their logo, and this stuff costs full price to produce. If the cost of production and distribution could be reduced to negligible amounts then why wouldn't we see the competitive elites feeding people clothing people and sheltering people just to be the dominant brand?

If the machine becomes sentient and takes over society, then the big question is how much it cares about our continued existence. Taking over society and still being a power tool on auto pilot is a scary thought though.

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jds2phb wrote

An entity that isn't bound by human vulnerabilities could go places that humans either can't (or really don't want to) go, like planet Mercury. It could send us abundant building material from Mercury to build moon cities and orbital colonies, then abundant carbon dioxide from Venus to help pressurize them.

All the sci fi guys want to write about traveling to other star systems, but the one we started with is remarkably good. If we can make a robot-ship to siphon gas giant atmospheres we could hypothetically build giant fuel refineries to power primitive interstellar ships, but also fuel for traveling between solar system colonies to continue massive human growth.

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jds1c90 wrote

When I was learning video editing at the turn of the century from someone who studied film while Blazing Saddles (1974) was in production (WIP presented to a class he was in) - he lectured us extensively on the fakeness people expect.

A lot of the things he told me are probably outdated by now, because they're the issues that 20th century equipment imparted into film.

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jdrv6ff wrote

1: And our game is reaching the cool part!

2: If 'all' is true then that wouldn't make this a special moment in history.

3: Estimates vary but 10% give or take in either direction, some say there's only been 70 billion meaning we've passed the threshold. Which is frightening if you consider the time scale. If the human population re-explodes thanks to next gen tech then us and all our ancestors combined could end up being a minority of humanity.

4: "Pass the peace pipe, that'll shut him up."

5: If there were nothing in the first place, then where did the dream come from? A first cause is needed.

6: This is a great way do describe a one-several-billionth share of human society. We're going to need bigger and better entertainment for when human population hits the trillions.

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jdrsbti wrote

"Why can't it do legal research" "why can't it do shopping" (and so on)

--Because it's still just a chatbot, people are working on giving it tools but we haven't reached the mature development phase of that yet we're still in the hopes&dreams phase. "GPT with tools" is going to be another incremental revolution but we're still critiquing GPT without tools and how well it performs work. What it's performing is a linguistic approximation of the work.

This blows people's minds for featherweight computer programming but at the present moment it is distinctly less helpful for laying bricks or felling trees.

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jdq89q9 wrote

We need a speculation megathread, this and other GPT-related subreddits are getting generic "what do you guys think" threads at an accelerating pace. What happens when the acceleration reaches maximum speed?

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jdq04wi wrote

Me and technology:

1: Videogame system where you wrap wires around screws to hook it up. The game collection was a ripoff of what was popular at the time, simulated paddles knocking a ball back and forth. All the games on the system worked that way.

2: Room full of people gushing out loud over the advancements of Mario Bros 2. Health points, improvised weapons everywhere, chose your character and they actually play different!

3: Super Nintendo and Playstation, dreams of being a game developer.

4: "What harm is a little bit of procrastination going to do?"

5: "Why is the talking DOS better at stuff than I am?"

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jdlbd8w wrote

My own personal guess for (lack of finding alien civilization) is that we've only barely gotten started searching.

Extent of human radio broadcasts. If we were overlapping with another such circle, how well would we know - how well would we have known 25 years ago, 50 years ago, 75 years ago? People finding the cosmic background might have found something else with it but we're still finding exoplanets because our vision is steadily improving. They were in an impenetrable fog at the turn of the century.

"We'll know when we're older" is what I would call an optimistic answer. Maybe there is something interesting out there, but we will need further tech advances or at least more time to use what we have. AI and future humans hopefully improve upon what we've got already.

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jdkbs4d wrote

Is it POSSIBLE? Absolutely, there's nothing stopping you from wide format printing a bunch of images and hawking them at the local flea market.

Is there anything stopping you on the internet? Lots of places keep putting up 'no AI allowed' rules. These rules somewhat-stop you from doing AI-related business on their sites. A lot of these computer art sites don't deal in physical fine art paintings either, they're just the Wacom Tablet art outlet.

AI artists will have their own outlets in the near future, and people who are highly skilled in writing prompts will be able make some money prompting stuff on command for the clueless majority. People who are good at processing AI output in various ways will have an even larger market, "take this image collection you make and put it into my XYZABC123 for me."

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jd6eb1j wrote

https://www.reddit.com/r/midjourney/comments/11upu8t/v1_v5_using_the_same_prompt/

Midjourney V1 to V5 using the same prompt.

>I have two friends here and they are sayijg "the market forces a maximal display of capabilities at the onset of this product's release, especially with all the competition entering the fight."

Your friends are regurgitating verbiage that they don't remember correctly.

Were the most advanced videogames at the onset of videogames? Was the most advanced architecture made the first time a human formed a stable arch? Competition makes competitors out-do each other back and forth, improving themselves as fast as they possibly can to remain in the competition instead of dropping out. As a concept, we call this an 'arms race.'

Deliberately under-performing in a competition is a strange move that people generally wouldn't do without a compelling reason (poor country's boxer offered tens of millions of dollars to throw the international boxing tournament, electoral candidate threatened by mobsters to make him throw the election.)

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jd4y95u wrote

  1. Bill Gates drinks poop water.

  2. We're still in the age of narrow AI, which covers things from the original CPU opponents to painter-bots.

"The age of AI has begun" is just the usual churnalist-to-OP pipeline.

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jd034a6 wrote

If ultra elites got killbots they would be turning them on rivals.

"I'll unite the plebs to use them against you" would be at least one super richguy's strategy.

If the machine is of superhuman intelligence then it's not going to be bound by human instructions, it's not a soldier because it can't be commanded.

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jczv5kj wrote

When shareholders decide a computer will make the best decisions, a computer will start making important decisions. Titles are bullshit.

I'd trust a superhuman computer to steer the ship I'm on more than I'd trust the the typical human leader of today. Today's human captains sink ships and get promoted to admiral by blaming it all on the deckswabber.

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jcwi9ub wrote

When Photoshop layer effects came out, people who made money from doing simple layer effects were angry. Then folks started figuring out you could utilize layer effects to make much better effects.

It will be mentally stimulating to produce movies and comics and games using AI-supplemented human work. Animations will have more frames in them just like the 2010s animation industry didn't typically animate like The Flintstones.

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