> houses are needed

no, housing is needed. not sfh. up not out. etc.

sweet, urban sprawl. badass. this is exactly what I think of when I think of vermont

that dude got banned lol. from reddit entirely

god forbid kids see a swear sometimes

please!!! think of the children!!!

that said basically any bumper sticker is a big red flag

well beta isn’t an airline and never will be, that’s not their market

a charter service for short haul trips perhaps at most

> it's time to recognize that we're killing ourselves with this garbage -- it's not syrup, and it's not food.

fucking lol. most artificial sweeteners are just not digested at all. they do nothing in your body. you eat them, you excrete 100% of them. they're far better for you than sugar, which is one of the biggest killers in the US (heart disease, obesity - not directly sugar's fault but a highly contributing factor).

you're using the naturalistic fallacy

Fine, want to go put out your own political signs? Go for it. Want to hire a business to do so? Or pay someone to do so? Not allowed

I dunno. You're making sense, and I'm just barfing onto my keyboard. I haven't put a ton of thought into this exactly, but there should be some sort of restriction on this stuff. It's just such a waste.

yeah i missed a word. fixed

For what it's worth: I haven't been to Petra rock, but at metrorock everyone was super friendly - I think climbers in general are pretty chill. It's pretty likely if you just show up there'll be a bunch of people there hanging out. Most of your time is spent resting, so you can chat with people pretty easily.

Good luck finding someone, I'm not in the area but you'll have no problem I'm sure!

by that logic, why can't i individually have a sign for myself as a baker on my private property?

is our current lack of billboards taking away our first amendment right? no. I don't think banning political signs (or at least, banning these signs spewed out everywhere by everyone) is infringing on that right.

Right. Exactly. Those undeveloped areas are what I'm saying should have nil development. I think that would happen organically anyway - nobody is gonna build a gigantic housing project in the middle of nowhere, and act 250 should take care of that already - but definitely less outward spreading the better.

> Maybe we should allow for some higher density housing in Burlington everywhere in vermont

ntoe: it should be ALLOWED everywhere (with a few exceptions for natural areas which should have basically nil development), but that doesn't mean a 6 story condo complex is gonna get built in the NEK

well actually my gut says you're a moron and I agree with him but that's because I am simply liberal and that is the liberal viewpoint, not because they have a compelling argument. "you're not in azov lol u can't have an opinion" is dumb as fuck, because they also did not serve in azov. there are plenty of high quality arguments they could have made, choosing a shitty one just to try to "win" the argument is dumb. people will just completely ignore a fundamentally dogshit piece of logic if they agree with the conclusion, which is stupid as hell.

analogy I pulled out of my ass: if someone says "ham sandwhiches are great because they are blue" I will say "that's a dumbass argument for calling ham sandwhiches great, even if the conclusion that ham sandwhiches are great is true". then ham sandwhich lovers will hate me. I'm not making a comment on the greatness of ham sandwhiches here, I'm making a comment on the logic used to reach that conclusion, which is faulty in the above comment.

u/kievit4ukraine I hope this comment clears up that I am not disagreeing with you nor am I agreeing with this chode lol, but just that I want higher quality discourse, so that people like meinblown has less of a handhold to grab onto.

by that argument you don't serve in azov either so how can YOU say one way or the other? I mean, my gut feeling is to agree with you, I'm not actually throwing my hat in this ring, I am completely ignorant on this subject and know absolutely nothing about these groups. just pointing out that your argument sucks and is logically inconsistent. there are plenty of high quality arguments you could make instead.