Lawjarp2

Lawjarp2 t1_j679l0r wrote

Dude the government can just build it's own production. When cost of production is cheap and labour infinite what prevents them or anyone from creating more production. People are overcomplicating things here.

None of the issues you mention matter if we are at a point when ubi has to be doled out because of AGI. The hyper deflation that will occur due to sudden increase in productivity means the governments can and probably have to print their way out anyway.

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Lawjarp2 t1_j65jkm8 wrote

Price control is opposite of what you want. Prices will drive down to nearly nothing if supply is pushed. What you should be afraid of is people in power no longer needing to obey you. Increasing government control or power is quick way to extinction when robots do all the work.

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Lawjarp2 t1_j64qskx wrote

Rents will go down in large urban centers. Why would you pay more to get less?

Prices of everything will eventually be driven down to zero through the massive increase in productivity.

Resources are not scarce, energy is. Fusion and other methods could solve the same. We sit on the biggest rock in the solar system, minerals are abundant. With enough energy you can refine anything from dirt.

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Lawjarp2 t1_j57vc60 wrote

You would see a selective increase in ML teams but the opposite has occurred. Companies have chosen to retain teams with lots of profit.

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Lawjarp2 t1_j54pi1w wrote

There could be riots because the jobs that will get replaced first are not basic needs. If we can drive food production, mineral extraction costs to zero through automation first we can have some semblance of good life for all. You can't automate jobs at the top and then expect more for all. If you want more produce more.

(1) Nationalise and/or fully automate agriculture and mining.

(2) Automate transport fully. You don't need fsd perfection if all vehicles are automated and can sense each other.

(3) Automate construction of homes and cities.

(4) Drive down cost of energy via fusion or slowly increase capacity through robot labour.

Provide the basics for free for everyone. Food, water, shelter, internet and some extra UBI. The odds of riots decrease greatly.

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Lawjarp2 t1_j4lgwbr wrote

Modern farming isn't isolated. Supply chain collapse means farming collapse as well. Farming equipment, fertilizers, energy and water all have to be self sufficient for your plan. Something that's out of reach for many.

Even if you did, there is still the need of security. Some people or even the government can simply take over.

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Lawjarp2 t1_j4fatix wrote

Complex understanding and reasoning of the world is necessary to do so. ChatGPT is still just going to spit out what it feels will be the most probable code and not something insightful. Well, it can actually, but that's an emergent property that is weak at best. With big enough dataset and parameters it could identify relationships and become complex enough to do recursive self improvement but it would take a lot of money to do that.

Somebody posted a while ago how LLMs are animal intelligence like us and not true intelligence. That seems true, we haven't truly cracked intelligence. The thing is we may not need to. We will eventually be able to train bigger, better and more complex models and get to human level intelligence.

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Lawjarp2 t1_j4ezuq0 wrote

That's partly because the whole point of diamond is to gift something rare and beautiful.

(1) NFTs are a great example of artificial scarcity. They put a limit on number of copies and call it rare. Then base real money on rarity.

(2) Some people even tried to create a VR/meta earth and sell land as limited quantity when literally it can be as big as one wants it to be. It's frustrating enough to have high land prices in the real world so they went ahead and made it in the virtual one.

(3) Governments restricting the amount of land where houses can be built is another form of artificial scarcity. This is what creates high home prices.

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Lawjarp2 t1_j4cllfz wrote

Ofcourse they will. We are like chatGPT, in the sense that we try to make sense of some situation/prompt and imagine reasons for it to have been true. We will all see the reasons how this was always going to happen and behave like it was inevitable.

It may feel like the world has changed but the world is still the same it's just our perspective that will have changed.

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Lawjarp2 t1_j3vorvm wrote

It looks like you are just projecting and generalising it over a large group of people to explain something. That is how racists are born. Not that I'm calling you one, it's very easy to do such generalising but it's rarely right.

We are not talking of schools here. These are universities.

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Lawjarp2 t1_j3voa1e wrote

Learning multiplication tables allows you to use base knowledge from memory to learn more things. University exams are not base knowledge. It's not school we are talking about here. These universities cost a lot of money and if there is no job to pay it back at the end you are essentially debt trapping people.

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Lawjarp2 t1_j3va0bl wrote

What's the point? If AI can do it to an extent to fool your exams and soon it will be good enough to do the job as well, what's the point of the exam or the course.

Isn't it better to adapt to use AI as tool and change the education system. There are also devices that are completely offline if you must test that way

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