LeeOblivious

LeeOblivious OP t1_jcctx8n wrote

What more elaboration do you expect than the statement that it was an official copy and that it was certified? Do they need to go into detail on what all that means in a word limited article? Or can we just conclude that the words mean what they say they do?

The laws that were broken have been laid out already. First the expungement statute, next the 4th amendment to the US Constitution. I could also make a 5th and 14th amendment due process argument.

Kidnaping is the taking and holding someone by force (or threat of force even if only implied or understood) unlawfully. Clearly as there was NO LAWFUL reason to arrest this man, his subsequent arrest and detention was unlawful. By definition! An ok sorry my bad I made a mistake does not make it not kidnaping.

The lawsuit has apparently already passed through initial motions to dismiss as the judge has sent it to mediation. If it had no grounds to stand on it would not have gotten this far. And when a Judge sends a case to a mediator that is them generally trying to tell the sued side to settle or else face a worse outcome in front of a jury.

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LeeOblivious OP t1_jcc3mmz wrote

He was arrested for a crime he did not commit and had proof that he had not committed. The database the officer used should not have shown he was a felon as that record was ordered sealed. And when he presented a certified official copy expungement the officer chose to ignore it.

Law enforcement made three failures here that compromised this man's rights. First, they did not follow the courts order and statutory process when his record was expunged. Rather they completely ignored it and continued to have his information listed as a convicted felon. Secondly, when presented with the official certified copy of the expungement they refused to accept it because it could be fake. If a certified official copy does not count as an official record anymore because it could be fake, then a whole lot of people just lost their citizenship, professional licenses, and other status's that rely on such documentation. And, thirdly, as a result of their unlawful action they kidnaped and held this man illegally under threat of official violence.

So no it was not a pretty standard arrest.

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LeeOblivious OP t1_jcbf9fv wrote

Sadly I do not think it would have mattered in this case as his personal info would have already been taken by the officer for the accident and the firearm was in plain sight. So if he had not provided the expungement paperwork to her, he still would have been arrested. Him having provided it, just makes it that much more damming on the officer.

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LeeOblivious OP t1_jcbb6zf wrote

So apparently the local highway patrol office is not following court orders and sealing expunged convictions. They arrested a man for having a firearm after someone else rear-ended him, because they still had a record of his conviction (that was expunged in 2021). The incident happened in May of 2022.

It sounds like he has a strong case. He had the proof of expungement on him, and they just did not like it.

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LeeOblivious OP t1_jcao6uc wrote

Found the guy with the jacked up truck, truck nuts, and aggressive bumper stickers.

First of all it is NOT victimless/useless. It is a significant safety concern. The higher the bumper is on a vehicle the more likely it is to cause major harm to the other's occupants.

Second it is not extortion to enforce safety rules. Do you believe it is extortion to enforce stop signs, one way streets, working headlights, and other safety requirements?

And finally, you do know the reason for this specific regulation and the history behind it? You do know that back in the day it was not regulated and after several horrific accidents we the people added this rule for a very good reason.

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LeeOblivious t1_jc8mx1d wrote

Any of a number of explanations. Someone may have ordered far more than normal, A truck got diverted from another store for some reason, the central warehouse was having inventory soon so they just shipped out anything they thought they could get away with, the company got a great deal on a huge bulk buy and so loaded everyone up with the stuff, and so forth...

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LeeOblivious t1_jc7fqst wrote

In the one location or all locations? And full time is counted as anyone working over 20 hours a week and employed for at least 6 months in the act. If the owner only closed the one location, then you should be able to move to another or else they risk other liabilities. Regardless go to the DoE and get a claim started if you are impacted by this shutdown.

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LeeOblivious t1_jc7duxw wrote

The Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN) Act requires a 60 day notice. But only covers those with 100 full time employees or more. I do not know the set up this for profit school used, so I can not guess if they fall under that. But, you should defiantly speak to someone at the department of employment security ASAP. They can at least get a claim started and retraining going if needed.

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LeeOblivious t1_jc7bmv6 wrote

Wow that's some pretty poor decision making on their part. They just burnt any bridges they may have had with their now former students and staff. And, potentially violated numerous laws. Managment looking out for management yet again.

I wish the best of luck to all of the staff and students impacted. I hope they quickly recover and find better places.

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LeeOblivious t1_jbd8nxs wrote

Your density is approaching that of a neutron star in this matter. Go back and closely review what you have been educated on in this topic by a great many other posters. Reflect on that and write a 750 word essay explaining why you feel this way citing reputable sources in the Chicago Style, double spaced in 11 point times now roman font. You will need to show specific cause and effect, that work was waiting to be done at those specific times and the persons standing around were not doing it even though they are qualified and licensed to do said work.

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LeeOblivious t1_jbd7uf7 wrote

Yet as multiple people have pointed out that is not reality. Your facts are merely suppositions and conjecturer based on ignorance. You are assuming they are standing around and not doing anything for no good reason. Yet provide no facts to back that up only your feels. So, I'm going to have to put a big old citation needed on your hypothesis that they are standing around and not doing anything resulting in them falling behind.

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LeeOblivious t1_jbd64tq wrote

Dude you sound just like the Tech Bro's I used to work with when I was a System Analyst. Always looking down on those lower in the perceived hierarchy of jobs and minimizing what they do and have to put up with. Always thinking they were smarter than everyone else. Never bothering to understand why we have certain processes, rules, and requirements.

Delays in these kinds of projects are very seldomly caused by the front line workers. Rather the project engineer made assumptions that reality could not back up, the coordinator (often the same as the project engineer) could not coordinate deliveries to the set time schedule, mother nature sabotaged the time frame, needed equipment/parts suddenly became unavailable.

Anyhow, take your blood pressure meds, do some yoga, and smoke some 420 if that is your thing. Just relax and let the pro's do their job as best as reality will let them.

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LeeOblivious t1_jbctvah wrote

Lol you think they are doing nothing? I'd recommend you try to learn a bit more about their job.

You have safety observers who's job it is to stand around and watch for anything that can hurt someone and stop it from doing so. You have the site engineer who's job it is to stand around and make adjustments as needed to the design and documentation. You have the job site supervisor who's job it is to manage the people on site and make sure that the rules and regulations are followed. You have apprentices who's job it is to watch and learn what they are expected to do and lend a hand when told to do so under the watchful eyes of more senior workers. You have specialists who's job it is to be on standby until it is time to do their specific piece of work. You would not expect excavation specialists to be able to do plumbing, or electrical work, or gas pipes?

There are specializations that each worker has. Just as you would not ask a roofer to wire up a house or a framer to plumb it, so to there are specialization in these types of jobs as well.

It is cheaper and quicker to keep them on site so that when their specific part of the work is needed it can be done right then and not have to call them and stop everything for an hour or two while they get there.

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LeeOblivious t1_jb6h4vu wrote

Avoid them. Quacks the lot of them. Anyone claiming that all illnesses are caused by spine misalignment and curable via spinal manipulation^(1) should be run out of town like the snake oil salesmen they are. Especially as it is a revealed religion sent to the founder from the other world by a dead physician^(2)

Look for an evidence-based medicine provider instead. There are a number of physical therapist in the area that do good work.

Carr https://www.carrtherapy.com/

Mercy https://www.mercy.net/practice/mercy-therapy-services-springfield/

Cox https://www.coxhealth.com/services/rehabilitation/

To name a few.

(1) Ernst, E (May 2008). "Chiropractic: a critical evaluation". Journal of Pain and Symptom Management. 35 (5): 544–62

(2) D. D. Palmer's Religion of Chiropractic" – Letter from D. D. Palmer to P. W. Johnson, D.C., May 4, 1911

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