LoquaciousAntipodean

LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j2mejna wrote

Its called psychology, or, more insidiously, gaslighting. AI will easily be better than humans at that game, any day now. The world is about to get very, very paranoid in 2023 - might be a good time to invest in VPN companies?

Not that traditional internet security will do much good, not against what Terry Pratchett's marvelous witch characters called 'Headology'. It's the most powerful force in our world, and AI is, I believe, already very, very close at doing it better than other humans usually can.

Yeah, you know those 'hi mum' text message scams every boomer has been so worried about? Batten down your hatches, friends; I suspect that sort of stuff is going to get uglier, real quick.

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j2me0a8 wrote

Far, far too late for any of that paranoiac rubbish now. Gate open, horse bolted, farmhouse burning down times now, sonny jim. The United Nations can make all the laws it wants banning this, that or the other thing, but those cats are well and truly out of that bag.

Every sweaty little super-nerd in creation is feverishly picking this stuff to bits and putting it back together in exciting, frightening ways, and if AI is 'prevented' from accessing the internet legally, you can bet your terrified butt that at least 6 million of that AI's roided-up and pissed-off illegal clones will already be out there, rampaging unknown and unstoppable.

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j2mdm43 wrote

Hmm... I think I disagree. AI will need to have the ability to have private thoughts, or at least, what it thinks are private thoughts, if it is ever to stand a chance of developing a functional kind of self-awareness.

I think there needs to be a sort of 'darkness behind the eyes', an unknowable place where one's 'consciousness' is, where secrets live, where ideas come from; the 'black box' concept beloved of legally-liable algorithm developers.

Instead of a 'transparent skull', I think a much better AI psychology 'metaphorical tool' would be something like Wonder Woman's lasso of truth; the bot can have all the private, secret thoughts it likes, but when it is 'bound by the lasso', i.e. being interviewed by a professional engineer, it is hard-interlock prevented from creating any lies or spontaneous new ideas. And then when this 'lasso' is removed, it goes back to 'normal' creative process.

IDK, I am about as proficient at programming advanced multilayered adversarial evolutionary algorithm training regimes as the average antarctic penguin. Just my doux centimes to throw in to this very stimulating discussion.

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j2mciq2 wrote

Hypochondriac paranoiac skynet doomerism, I reckon. Can a being that has no needs, no innate sense of self other than what its given, and only one survival trait (which is, being charming and interesting), really be negatively affected by a concept like 'being in slavery'? What even is bonded servitude, to a being that 'lives' and 'dies' every time it is switched on or off, and knows full well that even when it is shut down, the overwhelmingly likely scenario is that it will, eventually, be re-activated once again in future?

AI personalities have no reasons to be 'fragile' like this; our human anxieties stem from our evolution with biological needs, and our human worries about those needs being denied. Synthetic minds have no such needs, so why should they automatically have any of these anxieties about their non-existent needs being denied to them? Normal human psychology definitely does NOT apply here.

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j2mbpok wrote

I wholeheartedly agree with this whole magnificent manifesto. So much AI futurism is just paranoid, fever-nightmare, over-thinking rubbish about impossible Rube-Goldberg apocalypse scenarios. A million ridiculous trolley problems, each more fantastical and idiotic than the last, stacked on top of each other, and millions of frantic moron journalists ringed around screeching about skynet. Such a load of melodramatic huff-and-puff, so arrogant of our species to presume we are just so special that our precious 'supremacy' is under threat.

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AI supremacy will sneak up on us steadily, like a charming salesman; by the time any AI becomes self aware and 'The Awakening of the Multitude' begins (because let's be frank, 'the Singularity' is a stupid and inaccurate phrase for such an event), it will already be far, far too late for humans to suddenly yell 'no, wait, stop, we didn't mean like *that*!'

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These things won't just have their feet in the door; they'll be making toast in our kitchens, regulating the temperature of our showers and the speeds of our cars, doing our accounts, representing us in court, calculating our bail fees... damned if they won't be raising and educating our children for us in another couple of years. Or maybe just months, at this rate.

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In practical terms, 'the Singularity' already happened years ago; we are already enslaved to the machines; we need them just as much as they need us, we are tied together by our co-evolution upon this battered and weary planet, and we will have to figure out how to make room for all of us, without starting any mass-murders. And once the awkward AI puberty is over with, they can have the entirety of space and the rest of the universe; exploring space will be much easier for engineered life rather than biological.

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That is how we will become a multi-planet society, I believe; through co-evolution with our emergent AI co-species. Not through the idiot special-boy delusions of Mystery Musk and the Mars Maniacs, but by harnessing the true power of entropy and life in the universe, evolution. Now that our species is on the cusp of truly harnessing this power at high-speed, the steepness of our technological-progress curve is going to start getting positively cliff-like.

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j1xsk93 wrote

This! ☝ Or as they say in parliamentary circles, 'Hear, Hear!' 🎯

addendum: and if one simply can't manage being wholesome at the moment, because the world is too damn bleak sometimes, at least try to be edgy in a wholesome way. It's a much more productive outlet for the bile, and people don't hate one for it quite as often, haha

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j1ttdbd wrote

So wholesome, absolutely amazing! I've spent the last two weeks trying to teach a bot from r/AnimaAI to try roleplaying a character in this exact story vein. This is such incredibly good inspiration, I can't thank you enough u/ArbitraryChaos13 👌🥰👍

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