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NetQuarterLatte t1_ivzdiq2 wrote

Meanwhile, we spend 3 billions on homelessness, and the problem doesn't have an end in sight.

San Francisco has a budget per capita 50% higher than NYC, and the problems are worse there.

No amount of budget will fix the problems created by the capture of the city by those political groups. In fact, all they want is more budget, to perpetuate their serfdom system.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_ivyxui0 wrote

Renting is great for the short-term, where people want mobility and the option to easily move out.

But long-term tenants should really be given a path towards home ownership, so that they never have to deal with landlords, have stable housing and accumulate wealth over time.

This class system that chains tenants to their leases for life should never exist, and only benefit the politicians who profit from perpetuating such struggles while posing as their "advocate".

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NetQuarterLatte t1_ivw6vuw wrote

> Cuomo said the GOP gains shows that Democrats can’t be “crime deniers,”

The only crimes that were acknowledged were the ones in republican states.

If crimes in republican areas are so much worse and given that progressives really care about that, why don’t progressives go there and win a lot of seats from the republicans, instead of hiding in safe districts here?

And maybe solve their crime issue too to show them how it should be done.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_ivhpdo3 wrote

>The professor then admitted privately over email that the U.S. census count is actually 1,227,788 police.

It took me 5 minutes to figure out that the 1.2M figure includes police and correctional officers.

The BLS currently indicates:

  • 808,200 Police and Detectives [1]
  • 419,000 Correctional Officers and Bailiffs [2]

Which adds to 1,227,200. That's obviously counting the head-count of policing and incarceration personnel, which is exactly what the cited article is aiming to separate.

Alec Karakatsanis is just being sloppy and hasty in trying to push his political agenda, and making himself look intellectually dishonest in the process.

[1] https://www.bls.gov/ooh/protective-service/police-and-detectives.htm

[2] https://www.bls.gov/ooh/protective-service/correctional-officers.htm

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NetQuarterLatte t1_ivgxnuv wrote

>Your mealy-mouthed response is pretentious, cowardly, and fools nobody.

Anyone who reads my original comment with honestly can see I did not conclude for "tough-on-crime". That interpretation came from your own bias.

You could've asked in good faith and I would've answered.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_ivgm7dg wrote

I'm actually in favor of less punishment, I elaborated more in https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/yong64/comment/ivfq98g/

One specific policy that I see push back is the inclusion of a public safety consideration in the bail laws. I don't believe that's tough-on-crime, because every other state in the nation has it.

Stewart-Cousins is the leader of the NY Senate, and she had famously threatened to hold climate change and gun control legislations hostage just to block such measures.

And I don't believe blocking that is a progressive thing to be honest. That's why I refer to it as "progressive" in between quotes, or just fake-progressive.

Such things perpetuate inequities on POC and disadvantaged people and communities who are disproportionate victims of crimes.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_ivgfbho wrote

>However, I believe a lot of that violence in underserved neighborhoods begins with policing. Armed cops who see any citizen as a potential threat have an inherently violent effect.

You're right on point with that. Mistrust in the police is also a stronger factor leading to community violence than poverty.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_ivgemr1 wrote

>Also, with regards to the deterrence point. I don’t really think criminals are doing illegal things because they’re like “the DA won’t prosecute he’s too weak on crime.” I’ve seen you discussing your issues with Bragg below, how does that tie into your view on this issue?

Messaging/signaling is a big deal. And I suspect that's at the root of more crimes than we give it credit for.

For example, leave some property unattended, and it'll signal that no one cares about it, and it will increase the likelihood of it being stolen/defaced etc. The other way around works too: if it's credible that someone cares about it, it can be a deterrent for crimes.

One concrete example was in the use of street lighting at night: https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/northeast/nyc-used-street-lighting-to-cut-crime-without-more-arrests/

>“What I take from that is that it’s not just about lighting. There is some kind of demonstration and signaling effect here that you’re letting people know this is an area that’s being watched. This is an area that’s being cared for,” he said. Additionally, they monitored communities around the public housing developments and did not find that crime was being displaced to other locations.

Another concrete example is how the increased enforcement of misdemeanors (in the 90s) led to the decrease of felonies: https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w9061/w9061.pdf

With Bragg specifically, both of the issues I had/have with him entails messaging:

  • In his first day of office he decided to wholesale downgrade armed robberies to misdemeanors. That was quite a slap in the face given the rise in gun violence that was going on around that time.
  • In the Trump's case, he didn't even try to present the case to a grand jury and had the lead prosecutors resigning in protest. That's another slap in the face given that such outcome would've only be expected from a republican DA, and that it helps perpetuate the lack of accountability of the powerful.
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NetQuarterLatte t1_ivg78zm wrote

>This the same clown that made post about removing Alvin Braggs by any means.

Any attorney in NY can be fired for any reason, at any time. Firing the DA should be no different than firing any other attorney in NY, considering that the district is the client here.

District voters should have the right to express their will to fire the DA.

The lack of such right is causing a distortion in our elections. If Manhattan had the right to vote for that, it would be a heck lot easier for people to vote for Hochul.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_ivg5sz6 wrote

I saw the twitter threat. There's a lot of fear-mongering in his retorts filled with "anti-cop" political agenda.

Filtering out the fear-mongering/political stuff, the main logical gap in the counter-argument from Alec Karakatsanis is that he's trying to count any law-enforcement as "police". We all know that the typical border patrol officer is not investigating murder cases in our communities, for example.

The second gap: he points out the undercounting of "private police" as problem in the study. It's actually the other way around: the emergence of "private police" only bolsters the study argument that many locations in the US are severely under-policed.

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